Webbing - Roll pin or standard buckle?

#1
I'm thinking about changing out the standard buckle on my webbing in favour of a roll-pin, as the buckle tends to slip far more than I like. My question is in two parts:

1) Is it worth it?

2) If I do change it, do I need to buy an entire new belt for my set, or can I just change the buckle out? If so, how easy/difficult is it?

I know it might seem like a really bone question to ask...
 
#2
Which one is more free, doesn't cost you anything and doesn't involve you giving up your hard earned wages in order to have one?
 
#6
As long as your belt and buckle are in working order there is no real benefit to having a roll pin other than it passes the time trying to fasten it one handed in the middle of the night on your way to the night stag position (Late) with cold hands and a dog head because you forgot where you are in relation to the apex.
 
#7
If you think the standard side release buckle slips then just you wait till you use a roll pin belt its a lot worse !

How old is your Standard belt and standard buckle ? you might want to replace one or other first and see if there is any improvement .it is only plastic after all and will wear with time like wise the belt will become smooth and less likely to bite into the teeth on the buckle.

Its an easy modd for someone with a heavy duty sewing machine ,not easy if you are doing it by hand !
 
#9
fatmini said:
Its an easy modd for someone with a heavy duty sewing machine ,not easy if you are doing it by hand !
Easy if you buy the buckle from Survival Aids and swap it on the issue belt for the clip.
 
#10
fatmini said:
If you think the standard side release buckle slips then just you wait till you use a roll pin belt its a lot worse !

How old is your Standard belt and standard buckle ? you might want to replace one or other first and see if there is any improvement .it is only plastic after all and will wear with time like wise the belt will become smooth and less likely to bite into the teeth on the buckle.

Its an easy modd for someone with a heavy duty sewing machine ,not easy if you are doing it by hand !
Or for just 15 of your hard earned pounds you can buy a belt with a roll pin which works just fine. Not much slide at all for me. Simples :wink:
 
#12
nightshadow452 said:
I'm thinking about changing out the standard buckle on my webbing in favour of a roll-pin, as the buckle tends to slip far more than I like. My question is in two parts:

1) Is it worth it?

2) If I do change it, do I need to buy an entire new belt for my set, or can I just change the buckle out? If so, how easy/difficult is it?

I know it might seem like a really bone question to ask...
get a wide strip of velcro sewn on the 'inside' of the loose 'flap' bit and the corresponding piece on the 'outside' of the main belt, where the 2 would normally touch anyway.

lets you tighten up as normal then stick it down once it's tight enough so it don't slip.

will get a photo of mine and upload it sometime.

Dragon / JayJays / Troopers will do this job.
 
#13
REMEbrat said:
Major_Sharpe said:
I've always been a fan of the buckle as it allows instant undoing of belt.
Yes but 'Them' prefer the roll pin.
as for that argument, I've seen somebody with the normal plastic buckle attached by means of a small piece of belt to a roll pin.

allows adjustment by roll pin with ability to take it off quickly with clip.

and looks pretty ally.
 
#14
therealbigdizzle said:
nightshadow452 said:
I'm thinking about changing out the standard buckle on my webbing in favour of a roll-pin, as the buckle tends to slip far more than I like. My question is in two parts:

1) Is it worth it?

2) If I do change it, do I need to buy an entire new belt for my set, or can I just change the buckle out? If so, how easy/difficult is it?

I know it might seem like a really bone question to ask...
get a wide strip of velcro sewn on the 'inside' of the loose 'flap' bit and the corresponding piece on the 'outside' of the main belt, where the 2 would normally touch anyway.

lets you tighten up as normal then stick it down once it's tight enough so it don't slip.

will get a photo of mine and upload it sometime.

Dragon / JayJays / Troopers will do this job.
That is genious. I may have to get that done. You could sell belts done like this, you'd make a killing.
 
#15
JJ123 said:
therealbigdizzle said:
nightshadow452 said:
I'm thinking about changing out the standard buckle on my webbing in favour of a roll-pin, as the buckle tends to slip far more than I like. My question is in two parts:

1) Is it worth it?

2) If I do change it, do I need to buy an entire new belt for my set, or can I just change the buckle out? If so, how easy/difficult is it?

I know it might seem like a really bone question to ask...
get a wide strip of velcro sewn on the 'inside' of the loose 'flap' bit and the corresponding piece on the 'outside' of the main belt, where the 2 would normally touch anyway.

lets you tighten up as normal then stick it down once it's tight enough so it don't slip.

will get a photo of mine and upload it sometime.

Dragon / JayJays / Troopers will do this job.
That is genious. I may have to get that done. You could sell belts done like this, you'd make a killing.
cheers! so I do occasionally have a good idea then!
 
#16
'Austrialpin' make 'Cobra' buckles to fit the standard webbing strap widths, which perform the same function as the fastex-type side release buckle, except they are bombproof, made of brass/aluminium, adjust from either/both/neither end, depending on which sort you choose, and are interchangeable (within the same strap width)

They are also face-whiteningly expensive.
 
#17
auscam said:
'Austrialpin' make 'Cobra' buckles to fit the standard webbing strap widths, which perform the same function as the fastex-type side release buckle, except they are bombproof, made of brass/aluminium, adjust from either/both/neither end, depending on which sort you choose, and are interchangeable (within the same strap width)

They are also face-whiteningly expensive.
What's 30 quid when it comes to looking ally (apart from the first 2 hours of a night on the peeve)?
 
#18
mungeous said:
auscam said:
'Austrialpin' make 'Cobra' buckles to fit the standard webbing strap widths, which perform the same function as the fastex-type side release buckle, except they are bombproof, made of brass/aluminium, adjust from either/both/neither end, depending on which sort you choose, and are interchangeable (within the same strap width)

They are also face-whiteningly expensive.
What's 30 quid when it comes to looking ally (apart from the first 2 hours of a night on the peeve)?
True, but I got one of those 12' roll pin cargo straps from Kitmonster before their stock ran out. My allyness is, therefore, assured, so I no longer need to consider such things.
 
#19
The new issue webbing belt now has a new curved buckle fitted which is more resistant to slip and more comfortable. I think the buckle is called a DESR60 from ITW Nexus and can be changed without problem. I am pretty sure these are available from DE&S who now stock them to replace the old SR60 and probably cost no more than a squid!!
 

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