Wearing of OBE/MBE No Outrage Required

#1
Just a query for my own info, no need to POL the bus or wake up the WaltenKommando.

Would an MBE/OBE be worn as part of a court mounted set of medals? Does it take precedence over military awards and campaign medals?

Just curious, no I do not have either and nobody is going to end up on the 9 O'Clock news being pelted with stones so everyone calm the **** down NOW!:crash:
 
#2
I wear my MBE/OBE when and where I can it cost me enough
 
#3
At the risk of providing a sensible answer on this place, yes it would.

IIRC, it would take precedence over campaign medals but not gallantry awards (MC etc).
 

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#4
The ones I've seen have always been the first one mounted ie first on the left when looking at them.
 
#5
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Queen's Regulations for Army 1975

ABBREVIATED GUIDE TO THE ORDER IN WHICH ORDERS, DECORATIONS AND MEDALS ARE WORN

1. The Victoria Cross and the George Cross
VC, GC

2. United Kingdom Orders
KG, KT, GCB, OM, GCMG, GCVO, GBE, CH, KCB/DCB, KCMG/DCMG, KCVO/DCVO, KBE/DBE, CB, CMG, CVO, CBE, DSO, LVO, OBE, MVO, MBE

3. United Kingdom Decorations
CGC, RRC, DSC, MC, DFC, AFC, ARRC

4. Order of St John (all classes)

5. United Kingdom Medals for Gallantry and Distinguished Service
[DCM, CGM, CGM], GM [DSM, MM, DFM, AFM], QGM, RVM, [BEM], QVRM

6. United Kingdom Operational Service Medals, United Nations Medals and Medals of other recognised international organisations
In order of date of award

7. Coronation and Jubilee Medals
In order of date of award

8. Long Service and Efficiency, etc Awards
Meritorious Service Medal
Accumulated Campaign Service Medal
Regular Forces LS & GC Medals(Army, RN, RAF, UDR/R IRISH (Home Service))
[ERD], TD, RD
RNR LS & GC Medal, [RFR LS & GC Medal], [RNXS Medal]
AE, VRSM, [UD], NIHSM
Queen’s Medals for Champion Shots, Cadet Forces Medal
Rhodesia Medal

9. Commonwealth Orders, Decorations and Medals Instituted by The Sovereign
In order of date of award

10. Commonwealth Orders, Decorations and Medals instituted since 1949 otherwise than by the Sovereign (including those of the States of Malaysia and the State of Brunei)
In order of date of award

11. Foreign Orders
Foreign Decorations (In order of date of award)
Foreign Medals
Medals of the Royal Humane Society and Medals of the Royal National Lifeboat Society
These medals are to be worn on the right breast.

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Queen's Regulations for Army 1975

ABBREVIATED GUIDE TO THE ORDER IN WHICH ORDERS, DECORATIONS AND MEDALS ARE WORN

1. The Victoria Cross and the George Cross
VC, GC

2. United Kingdom Orders
KG, KT, GCB, OM, GCMG, GCVO, GBE, CH, KCB/DCB, KCMG/DCMG, KCVO/DCVO, KBE/DBE, CB, CMG, CVO, CBE, DSO, LVO, OBE, MVO, MBE

3. United Kingdom Decorations
CGC, RRC, DSC, MC, DFC, AFC, ARRC

4. Order of St John (all classes)

5. United Kingdom Medals for Gallantry and Distinguished Service
[DCM, CGM, CGM], GM [DSM, MM, DFM, AFM], QGM, RVM, [BEM], QVRM

6. United Kingdom Operational Service Medals, United Nations Medals and Medals of other recognised international organisations
In order of date of award

7. Coronation and Jubilee Medals
In order of date of award

8. Long Service and Efficiency, etc Awards
Meritorious Service Medal
Accumulated Campaign Service Medal
Regular Forces LS & GC Medals(Army, RN, RAF, UDR/R IRISH (Home Service))
[ERD], TD, RD
RNR LS & GC Medal, [RFR LS & GC Medal], [RNXS Medal]
AE, VRSM, [UD], NIHSM
Queen’s Medals for Champion Shots, Cadet Forces Medal
Rhodesia Medal

9. Commonwealth Orders, Decorations and Medals Instituted by The Sovereign
In order of date of award

10. Commonwealth Orders, Decorations and Medals instituted since 1949 otherwise than by the Sovereign (including those of the States of Malaysia and the State of Brunei)
In order of date of award

11. Foreign Orders
Foreign Decorations (In order of date of award)
Foreign Medals
Medals of the Royal Humane Society and Medals of the Royal National Lifeboat Society
These medals are to be worn on the right breast.

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Out of interest, do you know if the same order of precedence applies to the order in which you write post-nominals?

Family is getting a headstone done and currently listing the DFM + Bar before the BEM. Should they be the other way round?
 
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Out of interest, do you know if the same order of precedence applies to the order in which you write post-nominals?

Family is getting a headstone done and currently listing the DFM + Bar before the BEM. Should they be the other way round?


When using post nominals DFM comes before BEM

MBE would be before before DFM
 
#10
I take it my VC and bar should be in front of my DSO then? Where does my MC and BEM go then? At present I have them just behind my National Defence Medal for operations in BAOR in the eighties.
 
#11
I take it my VC and bar should be in front of my DSO then? Where does my MC and BEM go then? At present I have them just behind my National Defence Medal for operations in BAOR in the eighties.
Nah, VC and Bar in front of your MC, DSO and BEM (in that order)As for National Defence Medal - sell it on ebay - make sure you put SAS SBS Airborne in the description. Or just put it in the bin.

PMU !!!!!, hello mate, and in answer to your question they are worn, before campaign medals but AFTER gallantry awards. Get the beers in you crow!!
 
#12
I take it my VC and bar should be in front of my DSO then? Where does my MC and BEM go then? At present I have them just behind my National Defence Medal for operations in BAOR in the eighties.
BEM? Were you a 22 year Corporal who ran the Garrison Scout Troop or Sergeants' mess bar particularly well ;)

Post edited to add:

The removal of the BEM on grounds that it was classist was, IMHO, an outrage. It meant that people who did sterling jobs worthy of recognition never got their gong as what they did was not quite worthy of an MBE while at the same time giving equivalency between a fecking lollipop lady and a member of the Armed Forces when it came to honours.

Besides, I ignore MBEs without the tell-tale stripe. Anyway, it's only the Victorian Order which is really worth anything as Her Maj dishes it out personally...
 
#17
Dishes out, yes. Awards? No...

Though really only the Order of the Garter that the Queen really gives personally.
Only because Attlee said she (as was he) could in 1946

Also Noble Order of the Thistle (because Attlee let the sovereign in1947) the Jock equivalent
 
#19
Only because Attlee said she (as was he) could in 1946

Also Noble Order of the Thistle (because Attlee let the sovereign in1947) the Jock equivalent
You only know CAARPS because you have been awarded all of them for taking your current post......
 
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