Wearing of medals in New Zealand

#1
I am leaving the British Forces to go and join the New Zealand Air Force. Does anyone know what the order of wear would be should I get a campaign medal off them?
 
#2
Campaign medals are worn in chronological order. If you get one from NZ it will go next in line to any you already have (this is presuming that you can wear your Brit medals in NZ)

Hope this helps
 
#3
Yes I can, including the Jubilee medal.
Thanks
 
#4
Crab_Fat said:
I am leaving the British Forces to go and join the New Zealand Air Force. Does anyone know what the order of wear would be should I get a campaign medal off them?
By 2003, the RNZAF was reduced to a total of 50 aircraft and 2,523 personnel (including civilian employees). The RNZAF no longer has any strike capability. Current duties include maritime patrol, search and rescue, and transport
From here.

You'll get more gongs from the Campaign for Real Ale. Nice country tho'.
 
#5
That is not correct.

You wear any NZ medals first, then your UK medals. If you do a search on New Zealand medals you will find the excellent NZ MoD medals site which tells you everything you need to know. Look under the FAQs I think your specific question is answerd there.
 
#7
Foreign Orders, Decorations and Medals
The general rule is that non-British insignia should be worn after all British Orders, decorations and medals and in the order of the dates on which they were conferred. When, however, insignia are being worn on occasions specifically connected with the donor country, pride of place should be given to the insignia of that country. Foreign awards may only be worn when The Sovereign's permission has been given.
This is the rule for British personnel and I would presume that it applies to ex-personnel.
 
#8
Then you are wrong. Look at the NZ Army site and go the their medals site. It is very well done. If you are a serving member of the NZDF you will follow their rules. This is clearly laid out and it specifically mentions British medals awared during prior service in UK forces.

Look it up, it is very simple NZ Army follows NZ rules.
 
#9
Inf/MP said:
Then you are wrong. Look at the NZ Army site and go the their medals site. It is very well done. If you are a serving member of the NZDF you will follow their rules. This is clearly laid out and it specifically mentions British medals awared during prior service in UK forces.

Look it up, it is very simple NZ Army follows NZ rules.
Excellent site, easier to read than most British ones. Perhaps I've mis-read it but doesn't it follow the same suggestion that I made? For example, the NZOSM goes in advance of GSM etc.
The NZOSM is worn before all other operational medals awarded for service since 3 September 1945.
Note also the caveat:
Campaign, War and United Nations medals are worn in order of the date of qualifying for the award. Medals such as the General Service Medals 1915 , 1918 , 1962 and the Vietnam Medal are worn in date order of the campaign for which they were awarded. Because medals are awarded at different times and for different campaigns, the Order of Wear Table needs to be interpreted for each individual medal holder
 
#10
putteesinmyhands said:
Note also the caveat:
Campaign, War and United Nations medals are worn in order of the date of qualifying for the award. Medals such as the General Service Medals 1915 , 1918 , 1962 and the Vietnam Medal are worn in date order of the campaign for which they were awarded. Because medals are awarded at different times and for different campaigns, the Order of Wear Table needs to be interpreted for each individual medal holder
This point
For example, the general rule is that all foreign medals should be worn after medals awarded by the Sovereign.
means that if the medal was not awarded by the Queen of New Zealand then it comes after any award given by the Queen of New Zealand. Remember that
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, Queen of New Zealand and Her Other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith
is different from
Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Her other Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith in this case.

So, NZ medals have priority over UK awards when mounting, unless the NZ soldier is serving in the UK or attending an official function hosted by the UK...
Where a VC, GC, or other shared decoration goes would have to be thrashed out, but would anyone argue with someone wearing a VC awarded by the Queen of GB&NI in front of the Cadet Forces Medal awarded by the Queen of NZ?
 
#11
Without referring back to the list (which will probably be my undoing ;) ), I seem to recall that the NZ order is very similar to the UK order other than that there are three NZ operational medals that precede the UK issued ones. In respect of the original question, that's probably as far into the order that needs to be considered.

Though I do wonder if Crab_fat intends to have his medals re-hung with a gap at the front, just on the off-chance.
 

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#12
Off thread but I think plenty of folk coming here might know the answer (apologies) (and I think the NZ medal Q got answered)

Wathcing Dr Who the other day he bumped into Queen Victoria and described her somethinmg like her Royal Highness, Queen of England, Ireland, Something of India and protector of the faith (it was a lot more wordy than that).

My question is, where can I find the full honourific titles held by our various Most Great monarchs over recent history. I am particularly aiming to wind up Indian and American colleagues with this information. BS contributions will do! If you happen to know the answer feel free to post...

Sorry and thanks.

Mr H
 
#13
From the VICTORIA CROSS WARRANT (29th January 1856 to 1920) http://www.victoriacross.co.uk/vcrules.html

VICTORIA, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Queen, Defender of the Faith, Empress of India
The titles of all the monarchs from 1867 can be found at http://www.patrimoinecanadien.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/fr-rf/confed_e.cfm

The best, though, is that of Idi Amin: http://africanhistory.about.com/od/biography/a/bio_amin.htm
"His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular." Though I suspect that there's a hint of urban myth to this.
 

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