Red Hander
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Posting here rather than in the Syria thread as the interest is in the older weapons: Carl Gustav, M1919, MG34, Sten, Maxim (unsure of type - comments welcome), bolt action rifles at 1.17 (id welcome), etc.
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Posting here rather than in the Syria thread as the interest is in the older weapons: Carl Gustav, M1919, MG34, Sten, Maxim (unsure of type - comments welcome), bolt action rifles at 1.17 (id welcome), etc.
Bacongrills
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Bolt action on the left is a Mauser GEW 98 ? on the right is a Man Licker ( giggle ) Carcano ?
Russian full house, DP , RPK, RPD, PKM, DSHK, KPV, SVD...
Something very wrong with the PKM behind the KPV, the stock and pistol grip are too far back, looks like a diy job ?
Russian full house, DP , RPK, RPD, PKM, DSHK, KPV, SVD...
Something very wrong with the PKM behind the KPV, the stock and pistol grip are too far back, looks like a diy job ?
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Goldbricker
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Not a maxim tis a post ww1 Vickers with smooth casing
terminal
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In the video I thought I saw a Polish PM-63 or PM-84 SMG.
There are also what I think may be some Milkor MGL grenade launchers in the photo, but the stock looks different from what I have seen before. The other features however match the Milkor better than other equivalents. Someone better informed may have a different opinion.
One of the rifles does look like a Carcano, as noted by another poster above.
There are also what I think may be some Milkor MGL grenade launchers in the photo, but the stock looks different from what I have seen before. The other features however match the Milkor better than other equivalents. Someone better informed may have a different opinion.
One of the rifles does look like a Carcano, as noted by another poster above.
BrandySoured
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Bottom pic, under the telescope... I'm... nearly.... thERRRRRRRRRRE!
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Gimmie 20 minutes petal and I'll fix you.
Ahhhhhhhhhh. Gimmie 20 minutes petal and I'll fix you.
scalieback
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The Multiple Grenade Launchers look like: Multiple Grenade Launcher RBG-6 cal. 40x46mm - Madlerd Ltd. Difficult to tell from the camera angle.
E2A: Reports of RBG6 in use in Aleppo by ‘rebels’:
Ahrar al-sham fighter in southern #aleppo seen with a croatian rbg-6 multiple grenade launcher. #syria - scoopnest.com
And again: Serbian & Croatian 40mm Grenade Launchers in Syria - The Firearm Blog
IRIA - ISIS Weapons and Ammunitions
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terminal
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With regards to my previous post, here's a photo of a Milkor grenade launcher with the same style of stock. The other key key features seem to match pretty well, so I would put this one as pretty certain.
terminal
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With regards to my previous post, here's a photo of a Milkor grenade launcher with the same style of stock. The other key key features seem to match pretty well, so I would put this one as pretty certain.
Replying to myself yet again, according to Wikipedia, the Milkor MGL is used by a number of different countries, and built under license by at least five others.
Neither Syria nor Iraq are listed as users. However rather interestingly, Turkey is listed as being one of the countries that manufactures it under license and the only country in the region that either uses it or makes it. That in itself isn't definitive as to the source, but it is an interesting possibility to think about.
Probably handed most of those over because they couldn't get the ammo for them!
Red Hander
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True. As is now quite widely known, the rebels found a lot of Stg44 at the start of the SCW. They were seen in use in the early fighting but it seems the stock of ammunition ran out. Quite a few were found, having been abandoned, when Aleppo fell to the govt. If Syria could export weapons to the US, the Stg would be a small gold mine for them.
Red Hander
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That's very interesting. Huge testament to the build quality and soundness of the design. Edit: and to those who kept the rifle in decent nick for 108 years.
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terminal
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In the videos where we saw the various rebels being relocated, each man was allowed to keep one rifle or pistol (but not both) and three magazines. These were to be for self defence when arriving at the new location (evidently they didn't trust their fellow rebels).
Everything else had to be left behind. Hence, we see a lot of heavy weapons, machine guns, RPGs, grenades, etc., but comparatively fewer rifles or SMGs and many of those being old or use harder to get ammunition. The most desirable rifles or pistols probably got taken along with the departing rebels.
scalieback
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/769638398
Not sure about ‘small gold mine’ but $1200 isn’t loose change either. Selling 50 at bulk, maybe $8-900 each depending on quality
Edit: Seen, another .22RF one. The originals apparently worth a lot more. $60-90k for one with the Krummlauf: Rock Island Auction: German STG-44 Assault Rifle WWII Original
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Onetap
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The only reason they're worth that sort of amount is because of their rarity value in the USA, or most other Western countries, due to the import restrictions and sane governments' preference for turning them into ferrous scrap to stop them getting into irresponsible hands. The reality is that they're 70+ year old military hardware that was probably knackered when the original owners discarded them and they haven't been well cared for since then.
I'd cheerfully tip the whole lot into a smelter.
And the person who had the bright idea of assembling that quantity of explosive ammunition, of dubious age and provenance, in neat lines for a photo opportunity should be stoned.
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guzzijon
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I’m surprised you didn’t point out that it was the only weapon there deemed sufficiently mighty to make the wearing of goggles necessary
