I find it slightly hard to believe that no-one has got started on this yet - I could go on about it all day, and probably will do. Someone stop me if I get to boring! It's just that the spectacular re-invention of the wheel that is the CIC(S) (the "new" Infantry combined Phase 1 and 2 course) seems to have missed the point that we are not trying to train blokes to stand on the front gate. COs may well want people to do that, but surely they must realise that by allowing in soldiers who are capable of no more than stagging on, they are driving away their better guys. Even in the depths of WW2 (sorry, getting into Swift and Bold's "good old days" thing, but it's true), it was considered impossible to train an Infantryman in less than 44 weeks. We now do it in 24, and the syllabus is larger (our forbears saw the benefit in doing a few things very well). I applaud the idea of breaking away from the ATR system (sorry to take your best instructors back, but we need them to train our own people!), but can't we go the whole hog and produce a training system that actually trains people? I don't imagine that I will find anyone to disagree with me, but if anyone from the Temple of the Warrior Monks is prepared to toe the party line, I'm all ears... PS. Sorry BB, I don't really "love ya", it's just that I can't work out how to change the little letters over to the left.