Way down on her border (down Mexico Way)

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  1. Goatman

    Goatman LE Book Reviewer

    meanwhile, back at the dude ranch, Sir Barrington O'Bama keeps an eye on what's occurrin in the back y-aaaard: LINKERO

    Hmmmm......not sure the Anointed One is quite so dependent on the Hispanic vote as his predecessor.....be interesting to see how this plays out.

    Popcorn and Michelob stood to ....Anyone for a side order of Schadenfreude?
  2. Goatman,

    If you're still interested, here's a possible reply to your question. This article points to one of the realities the media and poiticians often miss. Too often they assume Hispanic/Latino citizens of the US and recently arrived immigrants are one monolithic group who all think the same way.

    Latinos: Obama's Pandering on Immigration Falls Flat

    During the midtem elections IIRC, a survey came out showing that the number one concern of Hispanic/Latino voters was the economy and jobs. Immigration was number five or six on the list. If I can find a link to those results, I'll post it.

    Based on what I see here in southern Arizona, Hispanic/Latino voters could be divided into at least 4 different groups:

    1. The people whose ancestors have been here for several generations, going back to Spanish empire land grants or other settlements dating from the 1700s or late 1600s. Some of these folks are bilingual; some speak Spanish with an accent even worse than mine; some don’t even try. These people are not going to respond to campaigning in Spanish.
    2. The second or third generation offspring of immigrants. Around here they tend to be fully bilingual. Historically they’ve been Catholics who voted Democratic because the party claimed to represent blue collar workers. That’s starting to change as more catch on to the results of Democrat policies. In the midterm election while campaigning for a candidate to unseat our open borders, bottomless deficit Democrat Hispanic congressman who called for a boycott of his own state in response to the Arizona state legislature passing an immigration bill, I encountered people who said something like, “Yeah we don’t agree with him, but we have to keep voting for him because he’s one of us.” I also found some who said, ”I’m a life-long Democrat, but I’ll never vote for that idiot again!”
    3. The next group is those recently arrived from Mexico and their children. They may not be fully functional in English. They’re also the most open to pandering by politicians, including those pushing the reconquest by Mexico of the southwestern US. The first two groups above are absolutely opposed to “La Reconquista” and can get quite angry about attempts to edit history classes to justify it.
    4. Not all Hispanics/Latinos in the US came from Mexico. This fourth group is irritated when politicians assume they care about Mexican issues. If they have ties to Cuba or any other country affected by experiments with communism or far left socialism, family stories guarantee they’ll be voting Republican for the foreseeable future.
    5. As the article points out, not all are Catholic. A significant number are evangelical Protestants or may have no particular belief system at all. No matter their religious affiliation, most tend to be social conservatives who at least claim to support strong families and oppose abortion. It looks to me like party affiliation trumps religious background.
    6. In short, I believe family history and the stories people pass down filtered through current conditions determine how people will vote (if they bother to vote). Politicians, including President Obama, would get better results by appealing to people’s experiences instead of ethnicity.

    I was too lazy to write all that when you first asked.