The orange waterproof Salomon I was given, has been great this past few weeks. It's the best I've had quality and comfort wise. About £300 worth.
I've got 2 Keela Munros, one red for when I want to be seen and 1 green for when i don't. Agree that they are quite heavy and especially when wet but they have kept me dry in some quite atrocious weather.I had a Keela Munro for a while, for working in the woods. Good price, durable fabric etc. But it was heavy and the fit was a bit ‘old school’ - quite boxy and therefore baggy in the wrong places and not too comfortable as a result.
Thanks for commenting and no worries about being divisive, this is ARRSE after all.Without wishing to be divisive, an MRT won’t hike in, snow hole, ice climb, then hike out. So your requirements are different, you will be constantly exerting.
Not disagreeing. I love my two buffaloes. When you are working, nothing beats them.
This is true:Picked up an Arcteryx Beta AR in “On sale Orange” for about half price at a REI online sale a few years. It has functioned flawlessly in torrentially rain and driving sleet. Well worth the money I paid for it. And if I do ever fall down the side of a mountain, my lifeless shattered body should be easy to spot.
If you don’t might horrible colours, the internet can turn up a bargain.
Thanks for the summary! I had naively assumed searching would be more active than it is and hadn’t factored in the casualty stabilisation piece. I assume your casualty carries are also slower than the stretcher runs I’ve done!Thanks for commenting and no worries about being divisive, this is ARRSE after all.
Our typical Known Location Injury Rescue is usually around 45-60 minutes of hard effort to get to a casualty. Lower leg injury on Pen Y Fan is a 'favourite'. Hasty Party (first responders) loads up with kit then makes best speed up the hill. Then we get there and stand about a lot until the extraction kit arrives, that can often take at least another hour. Then we walk out at a much reduced intensity. Either with or without the cas depending on type of injury, weather and heli availability.
Oddly enough, your scenario was something we pretty much did earlier in the year. Remember that Red Weather Warning 2nd March? We rescued an ice climber in a remote gully that evening smack bang in the area with the highest snowfall in the UK. Couldn't get remotely close due to huge drifts with vehicles, so it was a good old fashioned tab in with lots of kit at the height of the storm - About 1.5 hours to get in, about the same at the site static trying to keep ourselves, the casualty (spinal, ribs, punctured lung, other soft tissue injuries) and his mate warm & stable, extraction kit turned up, packaged, much shorter hand carry back out as we'd managed to get a farmers Unimog type thing a bit closer - rest of us tabbed back out again. About 4.5hours.
Searches are often very slow and long so you're not moving fast enough to generate decent heat and you'll be out for hours at a time in some pretty shit conditions so you need to wrap up very warm and try and be as waterproof as possible. I might put the Keela on then, but prefer to just go for the Extreme Smock with the Skogstad shell.
Point being - We're either working balls out - I only ever see my max heart rate on call outs, never when I'm out for a run or training - or doing bugger all.
Probably why there's so many ex-mil involved - it's perfect training for MR.
Waterproof!!!! Really? Gortex level waterproof ?Ventile. It's the biz. I have a Sasta from Raymundo Mears website and I love it. Breathable, waterproof, quiet and very Edmund Hilary. The only drawback is it stiffens up a bit when wet.
To be fair I have had no water related bother with mine. And that's my second ventile. First was a 'braemar' from hill trek which I had for ten years. Had plenty of goretex where I have ended up a sweaty mess but I'll grant you ventile can't compete with goretex water repellency. Plus gore tex doesn't go all stiff when wet. I still love my ventile though.Waterproof!!!! Really? Gortex level waterproof ?
I’ve got a genuine SASS ventile smock leaks like a ******* seive and a double layer ventile poncho and it goes like a a 20 year old tarpaulin
I had /have a mountain warehouse waterproof isodry 10000 , it has all the properties of a teabag. Relegated to dog walking jacketIf it is an outer layer, I can 100% recommend this...
Gust Waterproof Mens Jacket | Mountain Warehouse GB
Their ISOdry system is top notch and good value, looks and feels great.
Bone dry whilst cycling in some horrendous northern rain, mud wipes clean and the underarm vents work a treat.
Very good climate control overall, very light and comfortable.
The hood rolls up into the collar too.
A decent fleece jacket and thermal top should suffice for almost anything.
I just ordered the bottoms
Can't say I've found that with Paramo, but I'm a "warm" walker. I normally only wear a base layer under a Paramo.Really depends on what you are doing and in what conditions.
If you are traveling fast and light then something like Ventile is what I found to be best. Goretex and Paramo I found pretty sweaty and the latter is a bit cold.
I had /have a mountain warehouse waterproof isodry 10000 , it has all the properties of a teabag. Relegated to dog walking jacket