Water Wars

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by HectortheInspector, Oct 21, 2009.

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  1. This site was the first, but I have seen others referring to same letter.

    The 'open letter'is attributed to a "Water Corporation" , but I have so far been unable to find a copy.
  2. The problem is that the site refers to the letter, but uses it to promote its own interpretation and to connect it to other less reputable links. We're left wondering just how reliable what we're seeing is and whether we are seeing is balanced and in context.

    The original letter itself may be of interest, it's the filtering through which we are getting it that's the problem.
  3. The spin on the letter can be accounted for. It is curious (or not) that I can't find any English text of it so either 1) its bogus or 2) it hasn't made its way out of Iran yet.
    It seems a strange thing to falsify, as open letters, are by their definition, open.

    No official Iranian news site has it, but oddly enough the Iranian Foreign Office has today taken some action, apparently focussed on the Helmand river and Afghanistans plans to build more dams on it.

    I presume 'other Iranian organisations' to be shorthand for the IRGC.

    Iran Foreign Ministry Sets Up ‘Water Diplomacy’ Bureau

    TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Iran’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs has established a bureau for specialized handling of water disputes and restoring the country’s rights, a spokesperson said.

    Speaking to reporters in Tehran on Monday, Foreign Ministry Spokesman Bahram Qassemi said the water diplomacy bureau was formed a couple of months ago given the significance of water and Iran’s climatic conditions.

    The bureau works in cooperation with other Iranian organizations to restore the country’s rights, he added.

    Commenting on disputes with Afghanistan over common water resources and the Kabul government’s plans to construct new dams, Qassemi said the two countries launched the first round of negotiations in Tehran last month, noting that the next meeting will be held in Kabul.

    Iran and Afghanistan have a disagreement over allocation of water from the Hirmand River, as both sides suffer from droughts and climate change.

    In a move in violation of a 1973 treaty with Iran, Afghanistan has refused to supply its neighbor with share of water from Hirmand, which rises in Afghanistan and flows through eastern parts of Iran, according to Iran’s Energy Ministry.

    There are also concerns in Iran about Turkey’s plans to construct dams on rivers in the region.

    In early July, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani criticized major dam projects by Turkey on the Euphrates and Tigris rivers, demanding that Ankara halt construction of both dams that would be "dangerous" for the entire Middle East.
  4. The water dispute with Afghanistan has been brewing for quite some time.
  5. Have groan.;)
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  6. Absolutely. Tehran is getting very worried about other Afghan plans

    MoEW Says It Plans To Build At Least 20 More Dams | TOLOnews

    Afghanistan Reacts to Iran’s Comments On Dam Projects | TOLOnews

    There were accusations that Iran (Shia nutters) were financing Taliban (Sunni nutters) to stop the Kajaki refit earlier this year.
    Report: Iran’s IRGC using Taliban to disrupt Afghanistan’s water supply
  7. Now that is interesting, I thought that the two could not tolerate of each other. Maybe they really are nutters.
    And on a different matter, as previously mentioned the holding back of silt and sand by dams is causing problems.
    Late last night I watched a German TV programme, Leschs Cosmos, one of the subjects was sand and the shortage of it as building material. Two countries USA and Germany are suffering in different ways as a consequence of the thirst for building sand. Amongst other places the beaches in Florida are endangered as well as the coral reefs just offshore, in an effort to shore up the beaches (yes I know) they are hoovering up sand from further off shore , unfortunately the sand they are using is far too fine and quickly gets washed out to sea where it lurks over the coral reefs blocking off the sunshine, which in turn results in the reefs dying. Elsewhere sand and silt which are accumulating behind dams are being released in a large flood with the result that some places downstream get too much sand and others are still too short. Meanwhile Germany has megatons of sand as a left over of the ice ages, unfortunately a lot of it is not accessible for one reason or another so they are hoovering up sand from just off shore or in the rivers mouths, thereby endangering flood plains and offshore islands.
  8. As Hector pointed out, Florida is steadily sinking beneath the waves. Buildings and roads are also affected by rising sea levels in the form of increased flooding from the sea. The disappearing beaches are just another visible effect of this, but one which gets attention because it affects their tourist industry. Some areas are going to have to be abandoned over the coming decades.

    There's a US naval base somewhere near Washington which is also disappearing beneath the waves, but their defence ministry are not allowed to do anything about it (e.g. move or build dikes) because certain political factions are afraid that would amount to admitting that global warming was real and that is anathema to them.

    Another problem in parts of the US is that property developers will sell "beach front" properties that have no sand beach. They will truck in loads of sand and spread it along the shore to create the illusion of one to make it more attractive to buyers. Since the beach isn't there naturally, it of course soon washes away and the new owners are left with the natural stony beach. They can then either continually bring in more sand at great expense or accept that they got taken. Some resort hotels in various will also have artificial sand beaches built as they run out of natural sandy beaches to build upon. Both of these trends will use a lot of sand that must be continually replaced.

    Places which had been subject to glaciation during the ice age tend to have lots of sand and gravel deposits scattered in convenient locations. More southerly climes however don't have that and have traditionally mined rivers and shore lines for building material. This has become a problem in recent years however because of increasing environmental restrictions on quarrying sand and gravel from rivers and shore lines.
  9. Bring your gerry cans to Scotland tomorrow & stock up in case you Dhan Sarfers get a hosepipe ban.
    Torrents due. I'm selling at 1.18p per litre.
  10. A navy base sinking beneath the waves! Who need submarines.
  11. That's Germany, except that the locations are not convenient because lots of the sand is covered by autobahns, farmers fields or even towns. Unlucky.
  12. Not just the Norfolk Navy Yard. Over 120 US bases are likely to flood. This is why the US military is fairly sure that climate change might not be a fantasy.

    Who's Still Fighting Climate Change? The U.S. Military

    On American shores, three feet of sea-level rise, a mid-range estimate that could occur by 2100—would threaten 128 coastal bases, valued at $100 billion. Among the most vulnerable are 18 installations arrayed along the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico coasts from New London, Connecticut to Key West, Florida. Nine of those properties are major Navy hubs. At least four bases in Florida, Virginia, and South Carolina—including the Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island—could be mostly submerged by century’s end. Likewise, parts of the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, where tidal flooding now occurs 50 times a year, could also be under water.