Water Treatment - heve you ever?

#1
I have a small involvement in some Sapper-focused kit. I was just wondering what your own experiences of operating / installing any of the WPU was - good / bad experiences, never touched it, afraid of it? I've only seen a WPU(NBC) used once on an Ex where it worked - with a lot of effort and reference to docs.
 
#2
The kit used to get used a fair bit in Kenya for supplying the battlegroup with water. A prized job because the lads would use the S tanks as swimming pools which in Kenya is rather nice.

The WPU (NBC) is ok if you get one which has actually been backflushed correctly otherwise the candles go tits up and the thing is useless.
 
#3
One answer, loads of views. We really should take water production away from the RE and contract it fully - or just make it All Arms loke the Small Group.
 
#5
One answer, loads of views. We really should take water production away from the RE and contract it fully - or just make it All Arms loke the Small Group.
If water supply was to be taken away and made all arms then who would be the SME? As it currently stands the REWW is the SME as it is a single focal point. I can't see an infanteer RQ or CQ wanting the responsibility!
 
#6
I operated the WPU (NBC) for 4 months in Angola in '95. Brilliant bit of kit. I was also trained in theatre on the ISO container de-salination plant. Again another good bit of kit.
 
#8
With an RAMC EHT testing the water of course........................ assuming there are enough of them to go around!!!!
 
#10
All Arms produce water because there aren't enough Engrs to go round. Same with Assualt Pioneers, they are doing the low level Engr work because there aren't enough to go round.
Now the Assault Pioneer Cse has had a major revamp. You now have the Assault Soldier cse. But the problem with this, a lot of subjects aren't being taught. Watermanship for 1. This will have a huge knock on effect in a few years time.
 
#11
One of the Fld Tps of 59 did a lot of water supply for 3 Cdo Bde on Op Haven in 91. Lots and lots. (That's in metric, obviously).
 
#12
Most water in Th is currently produced by All Arms kit.
SG is an all arms as the standard is too complex and far too bulky. SG is designed for 30 days. It also maybe AA, but who teaches it? And where do you do if you have any queries or issues? REWW?
 
#13
done loads of water treatment, large & small scale as i spent 3+ years with 521 STRE WD.
 
#15
Whilst the WPU Std and SG are very similar in principle (Settle-Filter-Chlorinate-Distribute) the operation of Std requires more space, manpower and resources. On the flipside it chucks out shitloads more water (technical term - I wouldn't expect a Crab to grasp it).

SG is an all arms as the standard is too complex and far too bulky.
The quote above is nearer the mark if you replace standard with NBC, but whilst it IS more complex and bulky, it ain't TOO complex and bulky. Not when you consider that we Sappers are selected and trained for our abilities, which should enable us to operate complex equipment.

The trouble is, the traditional Sapper roles seem to be getting eroded as they can't compete with the sexiness of EMOE or the gong-worthiness of PRT type work. Water supply is a core RE function and that includes potable water. The current habit (set in since Op Grapple) of only drinking bottled water does the Corps no favours and simply moves the burden to the Logistic side of the fence. Part of that is down to "consumer confidence" and here is where bulk water needs to be palatable as well as potable - nobody wants to drink swimming pool water!
 
#16
I used the standard and light weight sets and eventually the NBC wpu.
They were always a pain on Ex but when used for a purpose they were all a great bit of kit, supplying potable water for all in hot dusty shitOles and engine cooling water for Harrier Jets.
It wasn’t a case of drinking chlorine or straining slaked lime through your teeth as the lads who produced it had to drink it as well so the quality was good.
The chlorine bottles were a bastart as Crab Air wouldn’t fly them, so they used to be stashed in our kit bags and carried on anyway.
The lightweight set was always in great demand in natural disaster zones and supplied loads of folk who had lost their water source or supply.
Just finding a water source could be job in itself that’s why the yield calcs were so critical.
I’ve been involved with changing watercourses, built dams and primary filters through river banks and the look on folk’s faces when they taste the water we have conjured up is always amazing.
It would be a travesty if the Corps loses this historic and very necessary skill.
 
#17
Most water in Th is currently produced by All Arms kit.[/QUOTE

Oh right, and all the wells and the bottling plant in Bastion were set up by faeries were they?

We always have problems with water, and the RE always sort it out, quietly and without a fuss - did you know that the coastels in the Falklands all had WP plants in them designed by a Sapper?

Remove the SME and suddenly water would become a problem..

Oh, and IMHO contracting is a possible solution, once you have the problem identified and solved.. Getting contractors to solve your problems is one of the main reasons why we are in the mess we are in! Contactors always solve their problems (of making shedloads of money), before they think about solving yours...!
 
#18
We use the borehole water in FOB Price for drinking and cooking. 521 installed that back in 2006 and it's still going well.
I agree completely with the comment that said if it's not EMOE or PRT stuff the Corps isn't interested. Trade capability within the Corps has gone down hill since we pulled out of the Balkans. Hopefully the JFEEs in Kenya where the Corps has to get it right will go some way to restoring our Soldier - Combat Engineer - Tradesman ethos that is sold so heavily in the recruiting officer but is rarely seen in reality.
 
#19
Oh right, and all the wells and the bottling plant in Bastion were set up by faeries were they?
Wells fair enough - but an annual op by a small specialist team isn't exactly wearing out the WPU kit is it? As for the bottling plant - last time I checked that was KBR-run - not a Sapper to be seen there.
 
#20
Wells fair enough - but an annual op by a small specialist team isn't exactly wearing out the WPU kit is it? As for the bottling plant - last time I checked that was KBR-run - not a Sapper to be seen there.
It was however Wedge spec'd and commissioned..

The point I was making was that retaining the STRE capability is a fundamental military requirement..

Or would you be happy with handing over Fast Air to Stelios?
 

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