Was Israel involved in the coup in Honduras?

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Why on earth would Israel be involved? What strategic interest might they have in a third world dump in the Caribbean...?!
 
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4(T) said:
Why on earth would Israel be involved? !
They aren't but our KGB friend hates Jews.
 
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RangeStew said:
4(T) said:
Why on earth would Israel be involved? !
They aren't but our KGB friend hates Jews.
Such an absurd allegation.

But the question remains open. So trying to answer it let's think what could be possible reasons.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,923405,00.html

In the 1976 border skirmish between Honduras and El Salvador, the two countries used Israeli infantry weapons. Since 1976, Israel has become a leading supplier to Guatemala, Honduras and to a lesser extent Costa Rica.
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In Honduras the Israeli-supplied equipment in use by the armed forces includes Galil assault rifles and Super-Mystère jets that Israel bought from France in the mid-1950s, refurbished and sold to Honduras in 1976. Israel is on the verge of selling its Kfir-C2 jet fighter to the Honduran air force, but it must first secure U.S. permission because the Kfirs are equipped with American-built General Electric J79 turbojets.
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Israel has several reasons for pursuing its arms trade. Most important, it needs the money to help cover the huge research and development costs of its own weaponry. In consequence, it does not ask too many questions about a prospective buyer.

The Israeli arms sales campaign also has political goals: to win new friends and to support governments that oppose the radical Arab states and particularly the Palestine Liberation Organization. In Central America the Israelis are actively wooing the regimes that are hostile to Cuba and Nicaragua, two countries that strongly support the P.L.O. The policy, in short, is based on the ancient adage that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend "
Do you see it? There are some Latino-American countries that supports the Palestinians and Israel in turn support other Latino-American countries that are in opposition to Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela.

Inevitably, the Nicaraguan government and others have charged that Israel is merely serving as Washington's proxy in Central America. U.S. officials deny this, though some acknowledge that Israel occasionally makes life easier for them by supplying arms to regimes that the Reagan Administration feels it cannot support so strongly or so openly. Says an American expert based in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa: "Israel operates without the restrictions imposed on us in this part of the world. It doesn't have to explore the abuse of human rights. It has arms to sell, and the governments in this region need them." An Israeli weapons dealer puts it more bluntly: "Just about anyone who shows any interest in buying arms from us can have them."
Now Washington (for political reasons) can not openly support de facto rulers in Honduras (though they are its natural allies). Moreover, Washington even imposses 'sanctions'. But Israel is not bounded by any obligations and serves as Washington's proxy in Central America.
 
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Maybe the real question should be. "Is it wrong of the Israelis to be selling arms to the Hondurans".

Personally I think not. If you have a commodity, then it would seem foolish, to refuse to sell it to an interested party. As the weapons are hardly likely to be used against Israel then the moral conundrum is also invalid.

Morality would be a strange concept for an arms dealer. Just ask the Russians who have sold millions to anyone that wants them!
 
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KGB_resident said:
RangeStew said:
4(T) said:
Why on earth would Israel be involved? !
They aren't but our KGB friend hates Jews.
Such an absurd allegation.

But the question remains open. So trying to answer it let's think what could be possible reasons.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,923405,00.html

In the 1976 border skirmish between Honduras and El Salvador, the two countries used Israeli infantry weapons. Since 1976, Israel has become a leading supplier to Guatemala, Honduras and to a lesser extent Costa Rica.
...
In Honduras the Israeli-supplied equipment in use by the armed forces includes Galil assault rifles and Super-Mystère jets that Israel bought from France in the mid-1950s, refurbished and sold to Honduras in 1976. Israel is on the verge of selling its Kfir-C2 jet fighter to the Honduran air force, but it must first secure U.S. permission because the Kfirs are equipped with American-built General Electric J79 turbojets.
...
Israel has several reasons for pursuing its arms trade. Most important, it needs the money to help cover the huge research and development costs of its own weaponry. In consequence, it does not ask too many questions about a prospective buyer.

The Israeli arms sales campaign also has political goals: to win new friends and to support governments that oppose the radical Arab states and particularly the Palestine Liberation Organization. In Central America the Israelis are actively wooing the regimes that are hostile to Cuba and Nicaragua, two countries that strongly support the P.L.O. The policy, in short, is based on the ancient adage that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend "
Do you see it? There are some Latino-American countries that supports the Palestinians and Israel in turn support other Latino-American countries that are in opposition to Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela.

Inevitably, the Nicaraguan government and others have charged that Israel is merely serving as Washington's proxy in Central America. U.S. officials deny this, though some acknowledge that Israel occasionally makes life easier for them by supplying arms to regimes that the Reagan Administration feels it cannot support so strongly or so openly. Says an American expert based in the Honduran capital of Tegucigalpa: "Israel operates without the restrictions imposed on us in this part of the world. It doesn't have to explore the abuse of human rights. It has arms to sell, and the governments in this region need them." An Israeli weapons dealer puts it more bluntly: "Just about anyone who shows any interest in buying arms from us can have them."
Now Washington (for political reasons) can not openly support de facto rulers in Honduras (though they are its natural allies). Moreover, Washington even imposses 'sanctions'. But Israel is not bounded by any obligations and serves as Washington's proxy in Central America.

Perhaps we should turn that magnifying glass to who is Russia supplying with arms?

Why is Israel not allowed to supply arms but everyone else is?

Trying really hard to make something out of nothing.
 
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Of course not, it's all a conspiracy theory. The Honduran Minister for Defence, Moshe "El Rodriguez" Dayan said in a statement, "Oy vay, senors, why would the people of Israel get involved in our little meshugana of a spat? La Guerra against those terroristas in our leetel country will continue whether it is kosher or not. These rumours are, how you say, fabricado and the chutzpah of those making these claims is to be seen to be believed. Ay yay yay, the chicos and boychicks in our Fuerzas Armadas will fight thees leetel spat without their help. Now, excuse me. I must go to prayers so a bi gezunt to all of you and gracias."
 

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