Ukraine War in Ukraine

[surfincivi]

At present the 3D printer is working flat out printing molds for a fuselage shell for a larger drone that I can use to drop the smaller vehicle I have shown on here before. With this I can then develop and test the same capability fairly quickly, and then use that to develop other capabilities - for example an EW homing unit was shown on twitter today - that could be used to locate a position and have the smaller drone cued on to it.View attachment 785958

Why use a quad design, range is energy limited and a lifting body with wings would maximise aerodynamic efficiency and hence range to get the mothership out and back with a decent payload.?

 

[stresser]

Because this is what I am working on at the moment, not the end of the path by any means.

 

[NSP]

Why use a quad design, range is energy limited and a lifting body with wings would maximise aerodynamic efficiency and hence range to get the mothership out and back with a decent payload.?

Proof of concept. Iron out the snags with the basic premise then apply the lessons and results to a more advanced prototype, thus reducing development time and waste.

 

[BopBopBop]

I think this is Russian armour in Adviivka

 

[stresser]

So, to cover why I am taking this approach at the moment - the need for multicopters won't stop, it will only grow- they will do more things and will become essential parts of any attack. I would propose that they are operated over the top of forward line of troops or attacking forces, used in 3 distinct ways - intel gathering/obs, indirect fire support (bolstered mortars platoon for example) and deeper strike.

I would say 'in the future' here, but this might actually be not that far away; I can see multicopters of some kind providing on call CAS being operated from FARPs - which necessarily suggests that they will become much larger. I could envisage seeing tilt rotors or coax drones with rocket pods and/or gun mounts so we're getting up in to the 300-500kg range there. Comms are everything here.

Fixed wing VTOL will certainly be a part of this, it will come down to the appetite to adopt - there is a lot of inertia if something works.

As far as the drone mothership goes, this was first seen on a russian fixed wing quad VTOL crudely carrying two 5in attack drones and dropping them over ukrainian trenches.

 

[old_and_never_bold]

At present the 3D printer is working flat out printing molds for a fuselage shell for a larger drone that I can use to drop the smaller vehicle I have shown on here before. With this I can then develop and test the same capability fairly quickly, and then use that to develop other capabilities - for example an EW homing unit was shown on twitter today - that could be used to locate a position and have the smaller drone cued on to it.View attachment 785958

I think one advantage of the Octocopter is that it is large enough to be controlled via IP over Satellite internet, which means it still works in GNSS & Radio denied environments. On the other hand, a drone with wings can also do that - provided it's not disabled by Elon for going too fast. So, have you considered making the carrier drone an aircraft style drone rather than a quad copter? Only one motor required, much more energy efficient, faster, longer range... or why not stick a model aircraft petrol or nitro engine on it?

 

[NSP]

I think one advantage of the Octocopter is that it is large enough to be controlled via IP over Satellite internet, which means it still works in GNSS & Radio denied environments. On the other hand, a drone with wings can also do that - provided it's not disabled by Elon for going too fast. So, have you considered making the carrier drone an aircraft style drone rather than a quad copter? Only one motor required, much more energy efficient, faster, longer range... or why not stick a model aircraft petrol or nitro engine on it?

What alt' is it supposed to operate? My experience of those model aircraft ICE engines is that they are bloody noisy.

 

[Stonker]

. . one advantage of the Octocopter is that it is

. . . in the wrong thread??

Mods - pse advise.

 

[load_fin]

Possibly because they have overlooked that a drone is mostly looking down and so painting out the fore and aft parts of the deck would be better? Black bow and stern hull whilst the deck above it is all green (or whatever colour they paint their decks - civvy fleet is usually green; can't think of anything I've been on that didn't have green decks except where they were planked) - yeah; that's gonna fool a drone op that you're a minesweeper rather than a destroyer, for sure!!

the drone speedboats don't look down...

 

[NSP]

the drone speedboats don't look down...

Good point, well made...

 

[ObnoxiousJockGit]

 

[HectortheInspector]

ISW report.
Another tired old hybrid war "artificial migrant" crisis on the Finnish border, and the Russian "Afrika Korps", but no Rommel in sight.

Institute for the Study of War

Russia appears to be employing a known hybrid warfare tactic to artificially create a migrant crisis on the Finnish border. Russia’s apparent hybrid warfare tactic on the Russian-Finnish border is similar to Russia’s and Belarus’ creation of a migrant cri

www.understandingwar.org

 

[HectortheInspector]

Chinese war buggies.

 

[Stonker]

T-62 knocked out in Dnipro bridgehead, seemingly:

A 60-Year-Old Russian Tank Apparently Tried Attacking The Ukrainian Marines’ Dnipro Bridgehead. The Tank Didn’t Survive.

Sometime apparently last week, Ukrainian drones knocked out a Russian T-62 tank just a couple of miles east of Krynky.

www.forbes.com

 

[HectortheInspector]

When your MT-LB conversion isn't tall enough.
Add a cope cage.