War as Holiday?

#1
While looking something up on the Jeruselem Post website, I came across this rather odd advert:

A once-in-a-lifetime experience:

THE ULTIMATE MISSION TO ISRAEL
Monday, June 16 - Monday, June 23, 2008

Experience a dynamic and intensive eight day exploration of Israel’s struggle for survival and security in the Middle East today: "a military, humanitarian, historical, judicial, religious, and political reality check."

Mission Highlights

Briefings by Mossad officials and commanders of the Shin Bet.


Briefing by officers in the IDF Intelligence and Operations branches.


Inside tour of the IAF unit who carries out targeted killings.


Live exhabition of penetration raids in Arab territory.


Observe a trial of Hamas terrorists in an IDF military court.


First hand tours of the Lebanese front-line military positions and the Gaza border check-points.


Inside tour of the controversial Security Fence and secret intelligence bases.


Meeting Israel's Arab agents who infiltrate the terrorist groups and provide real-time intelligence.


Briefing by Israel's war heros who saved the country.


Meetings with senior Cabinet Ministers and other key policymakers.


Small airplane tour of the Galilee, Jeep rides in the Golan hights, water activities on Lake Kinneret, a cook-out barbecue and a Shabbat enjoying the rich religious and historic wonders of Jerusalem's Old City.

First Class Accomodation

Five-star accommodations at the Sheraton Plaza Jerusalem (Glatt Kosher);


Three meals a day (all Kosher);


Luxury bus transportation and knowledgeable tour guide;


A dedicated Executive Communications Center at the hotel;


Personal cell phone for each participant.
From past participants:

"I have traveled to Israel more than 15 times and have participated on a number of missions before, however, I have never in my life been part of such an incredible and emotional experience. Each day brought new and thought provoking speakers, unprecedented tours and visits to secured military bases we never could have gotten access to on our own. The `Ultimate Mission’ lived up to its name and is something which I will never forget. It is indeed the Israeli adventure of a life time".
Dr. Simon Goldberg, Los Angeles, CA

"Thank you for such an oustanding trip. The Mission was extremely well planned, organized with first rate accommodations, transportation and food. It exceeded all of my expectations. Any professional interested in experiencing first hand the reality of Israel cannot miss this Mission".

David Winer, Esq, Chicago,



While I suppose it's a fund-raising/propaganda jolly for American tourists, I'm a little dubious about the morality of:

Live exhabition of penetration raids in Arab territory.

Observe a trial of Hamas terrorists in an IDF military court.
Note to ghost_us before he starts: this isn't me being anti-Semitic, I just think the whole concept's a bit odd and unsavoury.
 
#4
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Next time someone asks you to organise a battlefield tour make one phone call and the job is done.

Kevin B, Hamas would undoubtedly make a fortune doing this. Probably by kidnapping the participants and threatening to behead if they don't get a sizeable ransom.
 
#5
It's not new, sad to say. I seem to remember the sieges of Sarajevo and Dubrovnik attracting weekend besiegers from rump-Yugoslavia and Serb-held Bosnia to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
 
#6
TA blokes have been doing this for, well, the last 5 yrs...
 
#7
There was a UK based holiday company that used to specialise in holidays to nasty places. I haven't seen them recently. They probably got their client base killed.
 
#8
LEGZ30 said:
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Next time someone asks you to organise a battlefield tour make one phone call and the job is done.

Kevin B, Hamas would undoubtedly make a fortune doing this. Probably by kidnapping the participants and threatening to behead if they don't get a sizeable ransom.
No, they wouldn't have to behead anyone to make a mint. They just need to appeal to some wealthy Arabs, as this arsinine expedition appeals to some weathy Zionists.
 
#9
smartascarrots said:
It's not new, sad to say. I seem to remember the sieges of Sarajevo and Dubrovnik attracting weekend besiegers from rump-Yugoslavia and Serb-held Bosnia to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
and Mostar and Goražde and Bihac and Gorji Vakuf and........

Not just 'rump Yugos' either a fair few from all over.
 
#11
Domovoy said:
Is Mossad desperate for recruits or is Israel desperate for tourists? Or maybe support for Israeli policies is wilting in America?
They like the American money is what it is, mate. Don't worry, no wilting of support for the '51st' state - American politicians are too afraid of AIPAC and the evangelical Christians.
 
#12
smartascarrots said:
...to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
Hunting on humans? That's sick!
 
#13
Domovoy said:
smartascarrots said:
...to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
Hunting on humans? That's sick!
Very popular amongst the Germans during the Balkan wars by all accounts.
 
#14
Domovoy said:
smartascarrots said:
...to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
Hunting on humans? That's sick!
Here's the Russian poet Limonov squeezing off a few rounds at the besieged locals in (very good) doc Serbian Epics: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcCFJAfLTJE
 
#15
762baynet said:
TA blokes have been doing this for, well, the last 5 yrs...
We got paid for it though 8) . And got the authentic hurry up and wait
experince thrown in for free :D .
 

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#16
Sounds like a dream holiday for a war reporter mind you!
 
#17
woody said:
762baynet said:
TA blokes have been doing this for, well, the last 5 yrs...
We got paid for it though 8) . And got the authentic hurry up and wait
experince thrown in for free :D .
And the food/ accom was free. You get to go home with a tan too...... nice.
 
#18
Domovoy said:
smartascarrots said:
...to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
Hunting on humans? That's sick!
No worse than hunting animals. At least the human has a chance, however small, to return fire... :roll:
 
#19
tried to organize this in Brighton hard target stylee
unfortunately most of the homeless in Brighton not really capable of putting up much flight so hunts did'nt last very long
had to offer refunds :evil:
did cut down client numbers a bit ended up meaning the charity's budget got cut so all in all a disaster
plus management made me do an ethics course :x
 
#20
Rumpelstiltskin said:
Domovoy said:
smartascarrots said:
...to stag on in the trenches and fire a few rounds at the enemy. Do a bit bit of posing, some photos to impress the birds with and then it's back home for slivo and medals.
Hunting on humans? That's sick!
Here's the Russian poet Limonov squeezing off a few rounds at the besieged locals in (very good) doc Serbian Epics: http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcCFJAfLTJE
:) It reinforces two points: 1. Limonov is a sick individual, which is why Russian electorate doesn't vote for him or his party; 2. Hunting humans is a sick "sport" which is why Limonov was drawn to it.
 

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