Wanted-Para Helmet Medium

#6
The reason you can buy them freely is that the MOD has seen them them as UNFIF FOR PURPOSE, a Para lid is tested by Bde para Sqn for fractures etc every 6 mths, you are buying a lid that is not safe. Op Herrick mounting order also states that ONLY the mk6a can be worn in theatre, Para lids are BANNED. We had a guy on my tour (H4) who had a lid, when the bullets started flying, he was quick to offer an exchange, whicH no one took up the offer. You are not supposed to wear them on ranges/LFTT (as per Pam 21).....Finally....DO THE FU**ING COURSE IF YOU WANT ONE!
 
#7
blobmeister said:
The reason you can buy them freely is that the MOD has seen them them as UNFIF FOR PURPOSE, a Para lid is tested by Bde para Sqn for fractures etc every 6 mths, you are buying a lid that is not safe.

What a load of crap. Where did you get that rubbish from?

Op Herrick mounting order also states that ONLY the mk6a can be worn in theatre, Para lids are BANNED. We had a guy on my tour (H4) who had a lid, when the bullets started flying, he was quick to offer an exchange, whicH no one took up the offer.

I take it he was a bit of a coward then? Most personnel on OPH4 wore Para lids. What would a MK6 have done to stop a 7.62mm round anyway when a MK6A doesn't even stop a 9mm round?
 
#8
As you stated, most did wear 'P' lid. however, halfway through the tour, an order was diseminate down to get rid of the lids. The mk6a has stopped a 7.62, a 'p' helmet is basically a polestyrene shell thats covered...no ballistic qualities.
 
#9
blobmeister said:
As you stated, most did wear 'P' lid. however, halfway through the tour, an order was diseminate down to get rid of the lids.

No order was given in regards to the wearing of Para helmets on OPH4. Where are you getting this info from?

The mk6a has stopped a 7.62,

A MK6A has stopped a 7.62mm round? I don't think so. Helmets are not designed to stop bullets and no helmet on issue stops one. Helmets are designed to limit fragmentation injuries and cushion blows. If indeed a MK6A did stop a 7.62mm then the bullet must have been nearly spent.
 
#10
I've seen a Herrick mounting order that says that only the MK6a is to be worn, I'll try and dig it out of the system.

However, back on thread, why would a non-para trained soldier (a guardsman I believe) want a para lid? Unless he is a collector of course.
 
#11
Filbert Fox said:
I've seen a Herrick mounting order that says that only the MK6a is to be worn, I'll try and dig it out of the system.
Yes, that is the case. Only MK6A in theatre for us mere mortals. Gentex is worn by SF and a few other callsigns.
 
#13
blobmeister said:
We were told about the 'P' helmet order in Sangin Aug 06. However, the Regt guys obviously did not have Mk6 in theatre
Are you saying those who were not entitled to wear Para helmets were told to wear the helmet on issue (and not bought off ebay) or that all Airborne units attached to Para Regt were told not to wear issued Para helmets?
 
#15
blobmeister said:
As you stated, most did wear 'P' lid. however, halfway through the tour, an order was diseminate down to get rid of the lids. The mk6a has stopped a 7.62, a 'p' helmet is basically a polestyrene shell thats covered...no ballistic qualities.
No true. The para lid is kevlar and is the same ballistic protection as the old Mk6. After the steel lids were binned we were issued with plastic para lids, Falkalnds era, but these were superceded. Gather the mk6A has now been cleared for jumping with the proper chin strap applied.
 
#16
blobmeister said:
ALL were told not to wear the lid, Regt guys left their's in blighty and couldn't wear. Hense it was the first and last Afghan tour that P lids were worn.
What fucking bullshit. Best to put away the crack pipe now. All 3 PARA deployed on Op Herrick 4 with Para and MK6 helmets. Where do you get your info from cause it's surely not from a Para Regt bloke who deployed on OPH4.

Para-dox, the MK6A isn't cleared for jumping. We still wear Para lids.
 
#17
Fallschirmjager said:
[...] the MK6A isn't cleared for jumping. We still wear Para lids.
No wah and 'cause I am interested, what would you do if you (unlikely I know) had to jump operationally; carry both or take an operational risk on one or the other?