I have noticed it a few times over the years, I hear about people "second hand" who used to be in the Army but were apparently "kicked out for punching an officer" (or very similar story). First time I heard it was some bloke I'd gone to school with and he'd joined a year before me but had apparently been kicked out for doing someone in who was clearly asking for it (oh how maive I was). I later heard that he had been an admin nightmare from day 1 and eventually got SNLR'd for drugs. Then I heard similar stories again...and again...and again. Eventually it dawned on me that there was a very strange ego thing going on where people had joined up and either been booted out or decided to leave but couldn't bear to tell the truth that they had a) been rejected or b) left of their own volition - but either way they simply couldn't hack the routine and the discipline. It seemed to me that to admit such a thing was clearly such a major blow to their egos that they had to lie to every single person in their life about it. Then, yesterday, I was driving my son and his friends out and about (they're all teenagers) and one of them said that his Dad was "ex-Army but had been kicked out for punching a General". What sort of chopper tells their family such a bunch of shiite? Anyone else came across this phenomenon?