Walt definition

#1
Is there a set definition for the term walt? Is it to be applied solely to those who misrepresent themselves or does it cover non military use of military styled equipment. For example is me wearing combats when i go beating at the w/e waltish or do i only become a walt when i say i was a para in ......? Are those that re-enact all walts or just those that wear current clothng and use modern equipment? Paintballing and airsoft are often accused of being walty pursuits, Ive been paintballing and loved it. I wouldnt go serious and wear combats etc but does the fact Ive been make me a walt?

Take me as a case if you like. Im thick skined so insults wont hurt.

Army brat and have always been interested in all things military. Joined the OTC at uni and am currently in the process of joining as a soldier as ive always planned. However Ive paintballed a couple of times. Ive gone to a Military Fair and thoroughly enjoyed looking at the range of equipment through the ages. I occasionally wear combats when I go shooting.

So am I a walt? God I hope not but where does the definition lie?

(This is supposed to be lighthearted btw)
 
#2
The term has been defined over and over again on ARRSE. It is actually a bit unfair on the 'Walter Mitty' after whom all walts are named. WM only ever dreamt of alternative lifestyles leaning towards action and chicks but it's too late to change the name on a point of order.

It would also be expensive to change the 'corporate insignia' of the Waltenkommando.


I occasionally wear combats when I go shooting.

So am I a walt?
Yes.
 
#4
I always wanted to be a walt,but i failed walt course,due to the tough training it inflicts.
Plus they found out i served in 49 Para.
Nowadays i spend my time at the corner of the bar in a pub called The Squirrel and the Truncheon...
 
#5
I had read that but it doesnt really define it. It doesnt include paintballers or airsofters. As for previous definitions I havent come across any though Ive made nothing like an exhaustive search of the archives.

As for the first post the first part of the definition is that the wearing of combats in any non military situation is walty, irrelevent of purpose?
 
#7
satnav said:
wearing combats when i go beating
Beating off during work-time is positively encouraged, especially with so much access to the Internet. Unless you're talking about frightening small birds from their nest for the sake of blood lust... but probably not. Well done.
 
#8
changingmag said:
satnav said:
wearing combats when i go beating
Beating off during work-time is positively encouraged, especially with so much access to the Internet. Unless you're talking about frightening small birds from their nest for the sake of blood lust... but probably not. Well done.
Phew, thanks for the advice. I can carry on beating off all over my combats without fear of persecution. I'm the guy behind and to the left of the bint reading the autocue on Sky News, btw. :D
 
#9
changingmag said:
Beating off during work-time is positively encouraged, especially with so much access to the Internet. Unless you're talking about frightening small birds from their nest for the sake of blood lust... but probably not. Well done.
I do enjoy a good **** now and again. I work a night shift so I dont see my girlfriend a lot... As for frightening small birds from their nests I have to it takes alot of blackbirds and sparrows to make a decent roast. Ohof course normally go after larger birds that dont have nests at this tim e of year. As for the bloodlust perhaps you should try going on a shoot and seeing how much bloodlust there is before passing judgment. Oh and Thanks I do try
 
#10
I'm using the desertcam colour scheme for my ARRSE home page. Am I a walt?
 
#11
satnav said:
I do enjoy a good * now and again. I work a night shift so I dont see my girlfriend a lot... As for frightening small birds from their nests I have to it takes alot of blackbirds and sparrows to make a decent roast. Ohof course normally go after larger birds that dont have nests at this tim e of year. As for the bloodlust perhaps you should try going on a shoot and seeing how much bloodlust there is before passing judgment. Oh and Thanks I do try
mmm that appers as a stock in trade sort of answer amongst the huntin' set a bit like "oh the foxes dont feel any pain at all its a quick kill" as they are being ripped apart by a pack of hounds...

I think the bloodlust bit refers to the fact that you go frightening gamebirds into the air where they are gunned down, might not be bloody for you but I'll bet a fair few grouse might disagree with you there as the lead shot rips through them.

each to their own, at least my sports dont involve pain for others, well except the sub prozzie I give a sound thrashing to every weekend!! :-D

As for being a walt, I suppose the wearing of combat kit whilst indulging in a bit of pheasent slaughtering isnt actually waltish, but enables you to remain unseen by the offending little birdies allowing you to slaugter a damn sight more of them, what the combats were designed for really, however if you go out in full 95's webbing chest rig and a cmmed up fizog then that might be going a bit too far.

paintballing may be fun (Fekin hurt getting shot in the ass though!!) and once again the combats will enable you to remain unseen for longer, however wearing all the latest shiny new combat kit, forming yourselves into squadrons, troops or whatever and giving yourselves rank titles is a bit uberwalt.

re-enactors...walts or just rather sad?, well if one wishes to spend all day dressed in a short skirt with lots of shiny breastplates and leather straps and calling yourself Centurion cunnilingus maximus from the fifth Diluvian phalanx cohort is just a wee bit scary if you ask me!!
 
#12
[quote="geo7863]re-enactors...walts or just rather sad?, well if one wishes to spend all day dressed in a short skirt with lots of shiny breastplates and leather straps and calling yourself Centurion cunnilingus maximus from the fifth Diluvian phalanx cohort is just a wee bit scary if you ask me!![/quote]

Scary? maybe. Sad? probably.

Now resisting the urge to kick of the pro/anti discussion again...

How does this sound as a draft

Walt:- One who portrays oneself as something one is not in order to gain recognition or reward. Normally a person who pretends to be a member of the armed forces the reward being slobbering teenage girls (As in the case of Pte Golden). Also includes those who take a activities to extremes such as Airsofting and Paintballing. Where Squadrons are formed and ranks assigned. Eg RRATF.

Also included is the non appropriate use of combat clothing and equipment. Appropriate uses being Birdwatching and Fieldsports

To walt, walting, waltiness, Uberwalt, waltdom.

Fair?
 
#13
Absolutely nothing wrong with wearing combats for beating, although as
Geo says, the whole rig might be a bit OTT.

ISTR that there is a entire thread about shooting and kit, you might want to read that.
 
#14
geo7863 said:
I suppose the wearing of combat kit whilst indulging in a bit of pheasent slaughtering isnt actually waltish, but enables you to remain unseen by the offending little birdies allowing you to slaugter a damn sight more of them, what the combats were designed for really, however if you go out in full 95's webbing chest rig and a cmmed up fizog then that might be going a bit too far.
Well - that's seen off half the adult males in the Greek part of Cyprus then! Used to be up in the hills in this rig every Sunday - battalions of them using cannon-sized shotguns to waste sparrows.

Very manly.

As to definitions how about:

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, but tries to kid you it's in the
{insert 'crack unit' of your choice}, it's a f*ckin' Walt.
 
#15
you forgot the huge knives and handguns! they carried as well one exercise had us patrolling in small groups trying to ambush one another and these hunting parties roaming around all in dpm as well fortunataly they can't shoot
straight how we laughed :x
 
#16
Stonker said:
Well - that's seen off half the adult males in the Greek part of Cyprus then! Used to be up in the hills in this rig every Sunday - battalions of them using cannon-sized shotguns to waste sparrows.

Very manly.
Actually I'm quite partial to the 'greek technique' doesn't involve weapons and shooting though.... er well in a way it does actually !!:-D

brighton hippy said:
you forgot the huge knives and handguns! they carried as well one exercise had us patrolling in small groups trying to ambush one another and these hunting parties roaming around all in dpm as well fortunataly they can't shoot
straight how we laughed :x
The Knives are to sneak up on the offending wee winged devils and slit their gullets Andy macnab style.

The handguns are a last resort self defence for when an enraged wounded grouse is about to disembowel the hunter for causing its injuries,
a quick .45 between the grouse's deadly beady little eyes and salvation is a calling

I live in the czech republic and every now and then you'll see a group of hunters on a weekend with their feathered hats and hunting greens on, they look like something right out of a 19th century lithograph, and fair enough almost everything they kill is destined for the table (wild boar tastes lovely believe you me)...I say almsot everything beacuse they are a rather trigger happy lot and the odd forestry commision geezer has come to an abrupt demise every now and then.

My cheeky czech chick's cousin even dispatched his own beloved hunting dog to doggy heaven, cos he was a bit too keen to kill on one occasion. henceforth at certain times of the year me and the aforementioned czech chick dont do our lovin' al fresco in the fields or forests.
 
#18
There was a fashion once particularly of fans of the rock group The Clash, to go around wearing motorcycle leather jackets.
Needless to say none of them even had so much as a provisional licence between them.
Being ex services and a bit old school I would question these characters, some of whom were my friends, about their choice of apparel.

Whilst showing a mild interest in the traditional principle that you shouldn't wear such a jacket without a bike to go with it one of the Clash fans told me that as the leather bikers jacket went so well with the Motorhead T shirt and the Iron Cross he was also wearing if it was all right by me he couldn't give a ****.

The question is if you wear insignia and clothing you haven't earnt but are not attempting to decieve can you be described as a walt?
 
#19
SLRboy said:
There was a fashion once particularly of fans of the rock group The Clash, to go around wearing motorcycle leather jackets.
Needless to say none of them even had so much as a provisional licence between them.
Being ex services and a bit old school I would question these characters, some of whom were my friends, about their choice of apparel.

Whilst showing a mild interest in the traditional principle that you shouldn't wear such a jacket without a bike to go with it one of the Clash fans told me that as the leather bikers jacket went so well with the Motorhead T shirt and the Iron Cross he was also wearing if it was all right by me he couldn't give a *.

The question is if you wear insignia and clothing you haven't earnt but are not attempting to decieve can you be described as a walt?
Prob'ly not - check the ARRSEpedia definitions.

Unless of course, you are in a re-enactment group, and intent on bathing in the glow of admiration for things you never did . . .
 
#20
I suppose some danger of going into the Taxonomy of Waltdom again, but on grounds of "know thine enemy" I offer this up, forwarded to me by my brother in law who for reasons of his own finds these people a complete and utter bloody nuisance:

http://aoat.co.uk/

I had associated the more "serious" end of airsoft (as opposed to a bunch just having a laugh) with spotty, witless, horrible teenagers with something to prove but I now know that to be wholly wrong.

It is the preserve of the witless and horrible with something to prove

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/inde...30&PHPSESSID=409d028a9f7bcf68a222dc293843dc00
 

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