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Walking 32 miles

#1
Hi lads,
Well exactly what it says on the title. I just wanted to know what an average time to do this would be. Partly im doing this because its what I enjoy doing most weekends and partly because it should help when I get to catterick. The walk is from matlock bath train station down to cromford canal and then following the high peak trail all the way down to the tissington trail. From their we will follow the tissington trail down to ashbourne. Just wanted to know of any advice in terms of training and kit I should be taking. Ive got an idea but just want to make sure im along the right lines.
 
#2
The time to do it will depend on you, both your fitness and your attitude. When I was 15-16, I did the Crosses Walk (65 miles) in 22 hours and 20 minutes but took slightly longer to do the Lyke Wake (39 miles). I could have done a second lap of the Crosses but was totally shagged at the end of the Lyke Wake, despite the Crosses being the more strenuous of the two. I put the difference down to being bored on the Lyke Wake.

I doubt that you'll do much better than 4 mph, but allow for just 2 1/2 mph if you're meeting somebody at the end, otherwise they'll worry.

edit:
Thinking on, the Lyke Wake took just over 20 hours, just getting dark after a midnight start.
 
#3
Thanks for the advice. We decided that when we get to the end we will be camping at ashbourne beats paying £60 for a b and b when we can pay £7 for a pitch. If we stick at 3mph then im thinking about 10 hours for the lot and just making sure that I have plenty of food and water along the way.
 
#4
Make sure you're wearing sensible boots and proper walking socks. If you get blisters on a walk of that distance, your speed will drop right down and you could end up doing some proper damage!

(talking from painful experience!)
 
#5
Put tents down at Ashbourne before you start. That way you'll know for sure that you have a pitch when you arrive. Also, when you find that your walk takes 16 hours, you won't be putting your tent up in the dark, much to the annoyance of your neighbours.
 
#6
I got a decent pair of boots about 8 weeks ago ive been using and i've been using some decent walking sox but did see some soxs called 1000 mile soxs but don't know if they are much cop.
 
#7
it shouldnt take 16 hours because ive been putting in some decent walks and keep fit running and general ploymetrics. But im sure my feet will feel like crap at the end but it should be a good walk.
 
#9
I'll make sure I take that into consideration as it will definately effect the time as puttees and yourself have just highlighted.
 
#10
If your boots fit and you've got decent socks, your feet should be OK - you wear ordinary shoes and socks for more than 10 hours most days, don't you? What you don't do most days is walk up and down stairs for hours at a time.

Search the site for 1000 milers, you'll find plenty of comments about them. Mostly adverse.
 
#11
I think the 2.5 mph figure that puttees stated is about right - after all, it won't all be even terrain. Have fun though, the hill walking in the UK is the best I've encountered anywhere in europe! More people should do it. Make sure you're using a map and compass & not GPS - it'll stand you in good stead when you hit the Infantry Training Centre!
 
#12
I think the 2.5 mph figure that puttees stated is about right - after all, it won't all be even terrain. Have fun though, the hill walking in the UK is the best I've encountered anywhere in europe! More people should do it. Make sure you're using a map and compass & not GPS - it'll stand you in good stead when you hit the Infantry Training Centre!
...if you don't get lost... :)

(I didn't know that there was an ITC at Ashbourne)
 
#14
Naismith's rule is the way to work out how long you should take. This assumes that you can walk at 3 mph over flat ground, and makes allowances for change in height, which means you have to have a good look at your route and work out the contours. You should really plan in appropriate rest stops for food, and a 5 minute break every hour or so.

edited to add: 1000 mile socks have a mixed review. I have had a pair for years, and they are great in trainers. For proper walking, use zinc oxide tape to cover areas of your feet that are prone to blisters, and wear a pair of liner socks under a decent pair of walking socks..
 
#15
I always use three miles an hour is a good rule of thumb, two miles an hour in rock, scree and turf moor, thats allowing for breaks and blowing out of your arse on the steep bits.

I used to live in the High Peak and you have to plan for bad weather. I've seen snow storms come out of nowhere in June, twice, the worst was in 1975.

My minimum, Good boots, good socks, change of socks, breathable wet weather gear, a good wooly hat, gloves, water, more water, an emergency bivvybag, sweet stuff (I take dextrose tabs or kendal mint cake) in case you start to flag or get too cold. This all needs to be worn or carried in a good daysack, Tesco carrier bags don't work (you laugh, but I've seen it on the Crib Goch in winter). Even on marked trails take the OS maps, 1:50000 or 1:25000 in a waterproof map case and a silva compass (priceless on moors, in snow, heavy rain, fog and cloud). Tell someone what you plan to walk and and tell them when you get there, they can raise the alarm if you get lost, Youth Hostels and post offices are usually helpful in this regard. Carry a mobile phone, a whistle and a small torch.
 
#16
I did the 100km Van Ieper last year (and am doing it again this year). Its over 3 days and is quite cheeky.

You dont have to carry weight or race but an average of 22 miles per day for 3 days is not a walk in the park either.

My training was 8-12 miles walking at least 3 days a week and plenty of stretching. I knew blisters were coming (Ive always had blisters while tabbing) but that they were manageable; a torn hamstring etc would have meant ENDEX so during the march itself I stretched at every opportunity and my legs were fine.

See you all in Belgium for the march this year.
 
#17
Start walking at dawn, you will be surprised how much better it is to start very early, nice and cool and no other walkers to get in the way, take plenty of water and high energy munchies,
 
#18
Yeah I wont be taking a tescos bag...But I did buy a comftable bergain thats fit properly and I am goign to check the met office report closer to the time. We are going to start at about 8:00am saturday morning.
 
#19
Doing a non-circular walk of any great length unsupported can be a nightmare. If you're rocking up at Matlock at 08:00, having travelled from home by train, what time will you and your mates be heaving yourselves out of bed that morning? 04:00 or earlier? It makes for a long day - and you'll have wasted 3 hours of cool daylight.

Will the weakest member of your team be able to manage 35 miles in 10 hours? It's a fast pace if you're lugging camping equipment appropriate for a camp site at the far end. A bivvy bag is a lot lighter and less bulky than a tent, but you won't be flavour of the month if you expect to use it on a camp site.

If I were organising your walk, I'd look at the following options:
1. Get a non-walking mate with a car to set up camp at the far end while you're walking. That way you'll have the comfort of knowing that you've got somewhere to collapse when you finish. You'll also not be so tied down to a finish time and you'll have someone to ferry you to the campsite. If someone picks up an injury (and it only has to be something as daft as a blister), it's not curtains for your walk - he can be collected from the nearest road and the rest of you can continue.
2. Turf up at Ashbourne on Friday night, set up camp and sleep until 06:00 or 08:00. Get a taxi at 06:30 (25 minutes journey) or catch the 110 bus at 09:08 (44 minutes), revising your start times to 07:00 or 10:00. The taxi option will be a bit more expensive but will give you an hour head start on your current plan. The bus will involve a later start but that can't be helped. The advantage is that you'll be starting a lot fresher than if you've been travelling for hours before you get to Matlock. That factor alone could make up for the later start. Again, you'll be travelling lighter and you'll have the morale factor of knowing that you'll have somewhere to bed down.
3. Book into a B&B at Matlock on Friday night and into a B&B in Ashbourne on Saturday night. Camping's fun and cheap but you'll be better rested in a proper bed.
4. Book into a B&B at Matlock on Friday night. Get a non-walking mate with a car to set up camp at Ashbourne on Saturday and get him to ferry you from your finish point to the campsite.

I shouldn't need to say this, but... Don't get pissed on Friday night. Do get pissed on Saturday night.
 

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