Wales to Nationalise Railways

[ExAuxBalloonCorps]

Who would play the part of the Fat Controller?

Answers on a postcard.

Does the person have ‘Black’ in their name perchance?

 

[lokiuk]

Who would play the part of the Fat Controller?

Answers on a postcard.

Dianne Abbot, she's Labour like the devolved administration and of course fat enough to be the fat controller

And being Marxist, BAME, female and unable to put a matching pair of shoes on her feet would tick enough woke boxes to put her in the running

 

[jagman2]

I doubt the franchise agreements allowed for the forced collapse for railways by government. They would have been bid, priced and negotiated on predicted passenger volumes. Wouldn’t surprise me if the franchisees aren’t going back to governments to initiate break clauses.

All railway operators are essentially being operated on behalf of the government at the taxpayers expense at the moment.
All of the operator franchises ceased to be viable at the start of Covid and probably will not be viable again until the middle of next year.

All of the operators will quietly admit that this year the government is calling the tune and paying the bills.

 

[rgjbloke]

Found this a while back.

I can’t speak for it’s veracity but anybody have any practical experience of how these fares do compare in reality?

 

[bobthebuilder]

All railway operators are essentially being operated on behalf of the government at the taxpayers expense at the moment.
All of the operator franchises ceased to be viable at the start of Covid and probably will not be viable again until the middle of next year.

All of the operators will quietly admit that this year the government is calling the tune and paying the bills.

The railways were never privatised; a system of renewable franchises controlled by a regular is contracting not privatisation. There was near zero transfer of entrepreneurial risk to the service providers.

The government has reaped what was down by the Major government and nurtured by Blair’s. It owns the service, not the contractor.

 

[bobthebuilder]

Found this a while back.

I can’t speak for it’s veracity but anybody have any practical experience of how these fares do compare in reality?

See my last post. Britain’s railways are not privatised. The infrastructure remains in public hands and is dreadfully managed by Network Rail who couldn’t deliver a programme on time cost and quality if they tried.

Operating the trains is contracted out via a vastly complex franchising system that encourages the lowest common denominator of service standards.

The sad thing is, Britain had well run private railways until they were deliberately fucked over by wartime governments.

 

[Fiona_TG]

There's also the north south divide for rail in Wales, up in the north of Wales it's quicker to get to London, Glasgow or Edinburgh by train than to get to Cardiff

From what I understand, few in North Wales are keen to go the locations you mention (and, I might add, the 21st Century) reserving a special loathing for Cardiff which is interesting as they have studiously avoided going anywhere so I am not sure what they are basing their judgement on.

These are the kind of people who would actually like the Falkland Islands, if it were not for the Falkland Islanders at any rate.

 

[Fiona_TG]

SNP’s next bright idea?

It can't be, they haven't had a first bright idea yet.

 

[Fiona_TG]

Cardiff airport was a white elephant on the old days. Paid for by the English taxpayer, I would imagine.

I imagine they never expected any passengers of note, not judging by the attached amenities and the (dreadful) Hotel International that was added to the place, a truly cheap built prefab kind of place with Saturday night discos that made a NAAFI disco night seem like Club Tropicana by comparison.

The Pope and his plane did land there in 83 mind but I think he gave hotel and disco night a swerve.

 

[Old Stab]

It's the Senedd.
Anything outside of a 15 mile radius of Cardiff Bay is of no consequence.

 

[Daxx]

Sounds like we need a Welsh version of Hadrian's wall.

 

[gaijin]

Back to the future in Wales

 

[lastwalt]

2 different types of policing. I believe BTP operates under PACE84 whereas Police Scotland doesn't. I stand to be corrected.

Incorrect. In Scotland, they must follow Scots Law in the same way as Police Scotland, operating under the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act (1995).

 

[ThelmatheBelmer]

Not that I have any time for wee krankie and her lot, but......
Genuine question, why would that be such a bad idea.?

Different specialisms. If you have a heart attack, do you want a cardiologist or a GP to be your surgeon?

 

[lastwalt]

Different specialisms. If you have a heart attack, do you want a cardiologist or a GP to be your surgeon?

Are you really comparing a plod with a Cardiologist?

 

[ThelmatheBelmer]

Not that I have any time for wee krankie and her lot, but......
Genuine question, why would that be such a bad idea.?

Different specialisms. If you have a heart attack, do you want a cardiologist or a GP to be your surgeon?

2 different types of policing. I believe BTP operates under PACE84 whereas Police Scotland doesn't. I stand to be corrected.

They will do PACE isn't optional.

 

[BossHogg]

Incorrect. In Scotland, they must follow Scots Law in the same way as Police Scotland, operating under the Criminal Procedure (Scotland) Act (1995).

Like I said, I stand to be corrected. It's going to make it awkward for offences committed on a train on the border, a Scottish officer arresting a suspect in England.

 

[RTU'd]

So private companies cream off the profits for shareholders without paying in to the infrastructure upgrading and now times are hard want to hand it back to be nationalized, crack on but next time it goes private it will include the bailout costs.

 

[lastwalt]

Like I said, I stand to be corrected. It's going to make it awkward for offences committed on a train on the border, a Scottish officer arresting a suspect in England.

It’s no different to Protection Command officers of the Met operating in Scotland.

 

[ThelmatheBelmer]

Not that I have any time for wee krankie and her lot, but......
Genuine question, why would that be such a bad idea.?

Different specialisms. If you have a heart attack, do you want a cardiologist or a GP to be your surgeon?

2 different types of policing. I believe BTP operates under PACE84 whereas Police Scotland doesn't. I stand to be corrected.

They will do PACE isn't optional.

Who would play the part of the Fat Controller?

Answers on a postcard.

With a photo.

On a big postcard.