Snipped for brevity. I'd suggest that such a scheme would be less open to abuse, and possibly yield far greater social benefits in a more homogeneous society such as Finland's than it would in almost anywhere in the UK.Finland, and no, apparently it showed an improvement in wellbeing, mental health and economic security, but there were other factors involved too
Seems the new government is trialling UBI very little details, however I guess they will use their allocation of central government funding and central government can stop all welfare and social payments, giving the Welsh government that instead to share out.
Some how I can see this ending in more tears.
Labour idea and they are such a success in Wales.
Campaigners hail ‘huge moment’ as first minister commits to trials of payments to cover living costsamp.theguardian.com
You're making the mistake of thinking that an extra £16k per family / £4k per person would outweigh the massive inertia that many benefit claimants have; most of these people aren't go-getters who regularly scan the media for how to save on living costs; they live where they've always lived / feel at home, where they can blend into the background and not get (as they see it) grassed-up / judged by people around them.If that's it, say £16K for a family of 4, end of discussion I can see mass clearance of those on Welfare in London like the Highland Clearances and a huge rise in the slums of Welsh valleys. Happy days for me, don't work, not retired, an extra 8K a year.
I can see a few issues.
Wasn`t this tried out in one of the Scandinavian countries (Norway ?). If I recall correctly it failed miserably, as a large proportion of the population were inherantly lazy, and quite prepared to take the cash to cover basics, whilst spending the day in front of the box, instead of trying to increase their income by working.
Think about how high the Universal Benefit would need to be in inner London, where the cap for Housing Benefit for a single claimant over-35 is about £250 per week (working from memory). £308 per week would be a "pay-cut" when you factor in dole money.16k, about £308 a week. I can see the smiles turning to tears, when some recipients realise that housing benefit no longer exists and they have to find private rents out of that sum.
I've never understood what positive effect giving money to people with reasonable- to high-incomes is (if Universal Basic Income truly is regardless of income). And I certainly don't see any long-term benefit in diverting efforts and resources away from supporting people who are not working to find work.
Bliss...Wasn`t this tried out in one of the Scandinavian countries (Norway ?). If I recall correctly it failed miserably, as a large proportion of the population were inherantly lazy, and quite prepared to take the cash to cover basics, whilst spending the day in front of the box, instead of trying to increase their income by working.
No reason why one of the couple can't work or produce a kid for more benefitsOf the stuff I've read I have not seen any actual figures, so it is hard to judge whether they are planning to do the job properly or just half do it and end up with simply another form of poverty.
They talk about covering basic needs, but the DWP's current idea of £590 a month Universal Credit for a couple to live off and about £150 a month less than that for a single person does not come anywhere near doing that.