Wagner Watch - the Russian PMC

[Effendi]

Who out drank who?

Depends if you are talking wine, or vodka.

 

[Effendi]

Had lunch today with an ex member of the Wagner group

I assume he is a Russian who also served in FFL?

 

[Condottiere]

I out drank every one today...beer, pastis, whisky, red wine
One bint, there was a couple, asked me if i would like some fresh water
Gave her a scowl and mumbled something like,GFY dozy cow
Not even to shave myself

Any gen on Wagner from yer man?

 

[LepetitCaporal]

Igor is one of the serious types
5 years legion and then Wagner
Has decided to settle for good here in France
(Served in the Dombass with Wagner and other private contractors in Africain countries

 

[LepetitCaporal]

Any gen on Wagner from yer man?

Not even a glasnost stare
Very quite
Only spoke when spoken to
First time up at the bureau for him
He was there just to apply and got towed in
He even had a visitors badge on him
I do not need to wear one, i was expected (sgt at the guard 24 just waved me in

 

[par avion]

I out drank every one today...beer, pastis, whisky, red wine
One bint, there was a couple, asked me if i would like some fresh water
Gave her a scowl and mumbled something like,GFY dozy cow
Not even to shave myself

A Jock and ex FFL, an unbeatable comination eh!

 

[LepetitCaporal]

@ Condotterie : Jock Harris ring a bell ?

 

[Cutaway]

@ Condotterie : Jock Harris ring a bell ?

LE, Britfor, or SADF ?

And yes, I know I'm not Condottiere.

 

[Condottiere]

@ Condotterie : Jock Harris ring a bell ?

The only Harris I recall was not Scottish (or if he was, he didn't sound it and I never heard him referred to as "Jock").

 

[Cutaway]

The only Harris I recall was not Scottish (or if he was, he didn't sound it and I never heard him referred to as "Jock").

I've never heard French in a Scottish accent, but am looking forward to the day I do.

 

[Whiskybreath]

Ah huv. "Je ne dinnae ken pas" during French class, aged about 13, which irritated Mr Zalewski, our exiled Polish languages master.

 

[Gone2ratshat]

I've never heard French in a Scottish accent, but am looking forward to the day I do.

I heard it far too often in the foyer in the 80`s .

 

[glad rag]

I've never heard French in a Scottish accent, but am looking forward to the day I do.

You've missed the boat, Airbus 2004-8 @Toulouse, my pigeon glaswegian accented francais was a delight for the natural born speakers. "roll your tongue" the ladies would say....

 

[Cutaway]

You've missed the boat, Airbus 2004-8 @Toulouse, my pigeon glaswegian accented francais was a delight for the natural born speakers. "roll your tongue" the ladies would say....

But it comes naturally to them, you can always tell a French woman by the way she rolls her r's.

 

[LepetitCaporal]

Wagner has been recruiting New recruits from Russian (others?) prisons
They are used in a logistique rôle...munition transport etc
Will explain in time in depth the actual 3 catégories of the items

 

[HectortheInspector]

In depth article about the politics behind the Russian PMC world.

A mercenaries’ war How Russia’s invasion of Ukraine led to a ‘secret mobilization’ that allowed oligarch Evgeny Prigozhin to win back Putin’s favor — Meduza

Political squabbles and personal conflicts nearly cost Evgeny Prigozhin his prized position in Vladimir Putin’s circle of trust. Over the course of the war in Ukraine, Russia’s Defense Ministry has gradually erased the boundaries between mercenaries and the military. The armed forces essentially...

meduza.io

 

[Whiskybreath]

In depth article about the politics behind the Russian PMC world.

A mercenaries’ war How Russia’s invasion of Ukraine led to a ‘secret mobilization’ that allowed oligarch Evgeny Prigozhin to win back Putin’s favor — Meduza

Political squabbles and personal conflicts nearly cost Evgeny Prigozhin his prized position in Vladimir Putin’s circle of trust. Over the course of the war in Ukraine, Russia’s Defense Ministry has gradually erased the boundaries between mercenaries and the military. The armed forces essentially...

meduza.io

Very interesting. There seems to be a number of PMCs extant, but I don’t recall seeing any information on any but Wagner anywhere.

 

[HectortheInspector]

Very interesting. There seems to be a number of PMCs extant, but I don’t recall seeing any information on any but Wagner anywhere.

Wagner seems to be an umbrella and clearing house, but there are a few other loose groups out there.
It's getting more like the medieval Free Companies all the time.

Free company - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Condottiere]

Wagner seems to be an umbrella and clearing house, but there are a few other loose groups out there.
It's getting more like the medieval Free Companies all the time.

Free company - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

With the exception that they are all ultimately controlled by the Kremlin.

 

[HectortheInspector]

With the exception that they are all ultimately controlled by the Kremlin.

That sort of goes without saying, but which bit of the Kremlin? It's not a government so much as an organised crime syndicate with an army.
The ownership of the asset, (and it's soldiers) seems to swing between the head of army catering and the ministry of defence.