Vulcan 607

#1
Just finished reading this book and what a corker!

Prob the last of the great British bombing raids telling the story of how we sent our 'V-Force' down to bomb the APOD at Port Stanley 25 Years ago.

In true Crab Air style, all didnt go according to plan and you can read into the cock ups that were made in the planning process (lack of rehearsals etc..)

But a damn good read.

I remember being at an airshow at 5 years old, screaming my t1ts off and balling my eyes out as a Vulcan flew overhead! What a noise!

Anyway......couldn't put the book down and thoroughly reccomend this book.
 
#2
wasnt the actual bomber that droppoed the bombs a figure piece at blackpool airport ??

untill somebody decided that a fitting end would be to break it up for scrap..
 
#4
enterprise said:
wasnt the actual bomber that droppoed the bombs a figure piece at blackpool airport ??

untill somebody decided that a fitting end would be to break it up for scrap..
As far as I know, it is still a gate guard at RAF Waddington on the A15
 
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cloudbuster

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#5
No, the Vulcan at Blackpool was XL391. XM607 is at RAF Waddington, I believe.
 
#6
I'll get a copy; I grew up to the roar of Vulcans at RAF Scampton, a beautiful aircraft. There is a Vulcan at Carlisle aircraft museum and it totally enthralled my kids
 
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cloudbuster

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#8
You can still see the craters left from the bombing raid on google earth as well
Some would have you add the word allegedly into that statement, since a little deception went on after the raid.

Not that this should detract from the enormous efforts that went into this and the other missions in '82, but the runway was still usable after the raid.
 

maguire

LE
Book Reviewer
#9
agreed, a corking read.

I picked up my copy in Tesco's for 2/3 the cover price.
 
#11
I bid on EBay for the one at Blackpool, it went for 16 grand or something in the end, quite chuffed I didn't win in some ways as mentioning those immortal lines "You never guess what I bid on last night............." Went down a storm lmfao :)
 
#12
There was a Vulcan standing at Southend Airport for years. I don't know what happened to it, shame if it was broken up. Watched a programme on Sky a week or two ago, about a Vulcan being restored to an airworthy state.
 
#13
Maybe, maninblue.... it was a waste of resources but....

Could it have been thought as a statement of fact.... yes, maybe for the effort required it didn't have a massive effect.... but could it have been us saying 'Our nuclear bombers can reach you!'....
 
#14
No arguments with that!

Guess they had to make an attempt to make it tri-service, eh?
 
#15
Long range strategic bombing has its place..... maybe not in the current situation, but it has its place. and its effectiveness. I'm sure a commander on the ground wouldn't dismiss the opportunity (if we really still had it) when the time arose. Granted in situations such as Iraq and Afghanistan, it is not as appropriate.

I am slightly confused over the statement involving Bomber Harris... he advocated (with arguably good reasons) strategic area bombings. I would of thought that the targeting of an airfield would of thought to be a strategic precision target.
 
#16
I think it is only fair to say that the only time the airforce has 'resolved' a conflict has been in the battle of Japan.... and that was in exceptional circumstances.

Bombings are highly effective in controlling the industrial capacity of a country... however, as the old saying goes, ground is held by the soldiers.... I don't think Harris thought that his bombing alone would win the war.... but they did help the soldiers on the ground.
 
#17
I think its incredibly hard to retrospectively give opinions on what should and should not have been given.

The effects that Harris's engagements had on the German propulation can not be calculated... but how many allied soldiers did they save, and that was the intention!

(I know i'm encroching on the argument of the use of nukes on Japan).

In today's environment granted they would not be acceptable, however WW2 was a different form of warfare... different again from the falklands.

Warfare evolves.... and, rather worringly, it seems to do so faster than we can control it.

SR10

P.S. I do think we are getting rather off-subject....
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
Book Reviewer
#18
Two quick things
Didn't Harris say in future the bomber doesen't have to get through as we can do it with a man and a suitcase ( i.e. terrorisim)?

There used to be two cracking pieces of Falklands comedy in the aircrew feeder at Cranwell

Quote;
Once I knew the Harrier had locked on to me (with a sidewinder) I ejected my navigator in the hope it would lock onto his seat flame (Mirage pilot)

Cartoon:
Vulcan flying over the Falklands
Argies in trenches looking up
"How bigs their fukcing aircraft carriers"?
 
#20
Nosher361 said:
There was a Vulcan standing at Southend Airport for years. I don't know what happened to it, shame if it was broken up. Watched a programme on Sky a week or two ago, about a Vulcan being restored to an airworthy state.
Was still there eighteen months ago. I can't check Google Earth on this pooter but I expect it can still be seen.

the_boy_syrup said:
Quote;
Once I knew the Harrier had locked on to me (with a sidewinder) I ejected my navigator in the hope it would lock onto his seat flame (Mirage pilot)
No stick - no vote. Good idea to use the nav's bang seat as part of the DAS - shame the talking baggage is sitting in it at the time...

There's a taxying Vulcan at Wellesbourne and of course there's one about to get airborne at Bruntingthorpe in the next few weeks, once the final spares arrive from a certain Herc refitters at Cambridge airport.
 

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