Vote at 16.

Should the vote be given to children aged 16?

  • 1. Shut up and eat your dinner.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2. You are a good child, and I respect your right to be heard.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3. WTF, any Government worth its salt will ignore the voters anyway.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    0
#1
This Island has enfranchised 16yo children, by a majority of 25 to 21 votes in The States [our Parliament].

The proposers of the motion visited schools to ask the children whether they should be allowed to vote. "Our community needs young people to become engaged in our democratic process", said Deputy Caroline Labey.

[edited to remove volatile link from Jersey Evening Post]

I therefore now live under the possibility that a 16 yo could determine my future. What are your views?
 
#2
At 16, I felt like a mature and responsible person whos views should be counted.

Now, looking back, I can see I was immature, with ill-informed views, and far more susceptible to propoganda etc. than I realised at the time.

16 is too young to vote for anything serious. I am amazed that a group of adults has come to the conclusion that, at 16, someone is mature enough to vote.
 
#4
blue_sophist said:
This Island has enfranchised 16yo children, by a majority of 25 to 21 votes in The States [our Parliament].

The proposers of the motion visited schools to ask the children whether they should be allowed to vote. "Our community needs young people to become engaged in our democratic process", said Deputy Caroline Labey.

http://www.thisisjersey.com/news/news2.html

I therefore now live under the possibility that a 16 yo could determine my future. What are your views?
yer f*cked.
 
#9
You will participate in Democracy lil Timmy or no allowence for you!!!!

Or better yet, Mom you have to drive me to the Polls today!

Who had the bright idea to let 16 year olds vote? If I were 16 and could vote the drinking age would be lowered to 13. God only knows what else I could have thought up.
 
#10
As THE_GOON put it
At 16, most repeat most have no political motivation or real understanding

Personally , I don't beleive it could happen here, and if it were to happen , the apathy displayed at the last local and general elections would probably have still taken place.

Just a thought though, If U.K.plc were to give 16 yo the vote, the little scrotes would have an extra day off , as most schools close for polling
 
#11
tommy_cooker said:
surely you can force them to vote for your party or they have to walk home!
Curiously, here we do not have political parties. They were tried in the 19th century, but were found to be divisive ... setting neighbour against neighbour, that sort of thing.

So ... you vote for:
a. He seems nice.
b. I have met him.
c. He's part of the "establishment".
d. He's promised me/mum/dad/my kid more benefits.
e. WTF ... he'll do :roll:
f. I can't be arrrsed, and it's raining.
g. I have read and understood his policies and principles, and believe that it would be a substantial benefit to society if he were a representative of the people in The States.
 
#12
Q

How many/percentage of local population turned up and voted at last election time?
Does giving the kiddiewinks actually have any REAL power?
 
#13
Hell... I'm all for raising the voting age to 25 and requiring at least a high school degree.
 
#14
Whilst on the one hand I can understand the frustration of a disenfranchised 16yr old, who might well be well-informed and opinionated (I was a precocious little sod), I think that 18 is a sensible, if arbitrary milestone. If you cut it to 16, in 10 years there will be pressure to reduce further.

Engagement in the political process is not going to make teenagers content, stable citizens!
 
#15
Darthspud said:
As THE_GOON put it
At 16, most repeat most have no political motivation or real understanding

Personally , I don't beleive it could happen here, and if it were to happen , the apathy displayed at the last local and general elections would probably have still taken place.

Just a thought though, If U.K.plc were to give 16 yo the vote, the little scrotes would have an extra day off , as most schools close for polling
Maybe the point of this is to deal with that. That said at 16 I was politcally motivated and could not wait to vote as I had been brought up learning all about the difficulty for women to get the vote and the importance of voting by my grandad.

I understand that some 16 year olds are immature and more susceptible to propaganda but surely engaging them in the system is better than telling them they do not understand it and therefore do not have the right to be counted.
 
#16
Khyros said:
Hell... I'm all for raising the voting age to 25 and requiring at least a high school degree.
Be nice if the above was a requirement in order to be able to reproduce ;)
 
#17
Great inputs so far, and thank you!

1. jest 265 ... some 16yos? Engage by all means, but let them loose [unsupervised] on politics?

2. Khyros ... how's the flooding? I have a grumpy old man view that has synch with yours. I do NOT believe in universal adult [16?] suffrage. The right to determine how your country, or whatever, is run requires more than "age".

3. Darth ... turnout here is as bad as there. The "Left" want more punters at the polls [the "benefits" community]. "My son will vote for 'im 'cos 'e said we'll get more bennies."

And let us not forget parental leverage on the still-malleable minds of those living at home ....
 
#18
Bit damp here at the moment... lots of thunder and lightning, hard for the fireworks to compete with a good electrical storm...

Power is still on and we reside atop a hill so no worries. :)
 
#19
IMHO
NO-one should automatically be enfranchised (not even at 18)
Unless or until you have contributed to the National good(HM Forces , Social service, ) then you don't get the vote until 21

again IMHO
voting should be compulsory too, much like Australia (or so I understand)
 
#20
What about amending the "right" to suffrage by making it more of a priveledge? The right to vote could be earned - for example by mandatory public service, or by demonstrating an agreed level of citizenship (voluntary service, charitable work etc).

Perhaps all a little Robert A. Heinlein...
 
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