Volunteer Reserves Service Medal

#1
Can anyone help me?

I served for 5 years in the TA and qualified for bounty in every training year. I then left in July 2003, before re-joining in April 2005.

For the purpose of time towards my VRSM, does that constitute a break in service, and I have to start from scratch. Or does it not count as a break, and my 5 years I have already done can go towards my VRSM.

Cheers
 
#2
Sorry Hantslad. The VRSM goes to TA soldiers/officers who have completed 12 years continuous reckonable service. You also need to have attended 10 annual camps (or courses in lieu) out of the 12 possible. A break in service will take you back to year zero UNLESS you've been serving with the Regular Army/RAF/RN/RM or one of the Cadet Forces during this time - in this case it does not count as a break in service, but obviously doesn't count as reckonable service either.

Hope this helps (or maybe not).
 
#3
Country Bumpkin is a little behind the times. The Territorial Efficiency Medal (TEM) had a qualification period of 12 years service with 11 of those years requiring bounty qualified/fit for role.
The VRSM is awarded after 10 years service with 9 of those years requiring bounty qualified/fit for role. The VRSM takes into account broken service of less than 3 years. Therefore if you left the TA after 5 years service and rejoined within 3 years, that absence from the TA does not count as a break of service for the purpose of qualifying for the medal. However Country Bumpkin is right when he says you have to complete the camp qualifying events to qualify. If, in your previous 5 years TA service, you never completed a camp then you have no reckonable qualifying time. However if you got your bounty every year then you are half way towards your medal.
Unusually regular service only counts half, to a maximum of 5 years. In my case I served 6 years in the regs so I could count 5 years at half time equaling 2.5 years towards the medal. I would have needed only 7.5 years to qualify assuming I was fit for role each year. However my break of service was over 3 years so my regular service counted for nothing. I had to start from scratch and qualified last month. If my Telic medal is anything to go by I should get the VRSM in 2010. Hope this helps.
 

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#6
well I have been waiting for 3 1/2 years now . . . . ho hum
 
#9
So just to confirm, having qualified for bounty in every year for 5 years, then had a break of less than two years, this means that when I get my bounty for this year, I will have 6 years reckonable service for the purpose of the VRSM???
 
#13
OK - Sorry to bring this thread to light again...I am just coming up for 12 years service and have been bounty qualified/ffr every year so how come a WO2 receives his VRSM even though his service number is several thousand below mine?

Not that I'm that pissed (much) but I keep get fobbed off at unit level as "its all done by Glasgow & nothing to do with us" is this true?
 
#15
Toysoldier_1967 said:
OK - Sorry to bring this thread to light again...I am just coming up for 12 years service and have been bounty qualified/ffr every year so how come a WO2 receives his VRSM even though his service number is several thousand below mine?

Not that I'm that pissed (much) but I keep get fobbed off at unit level as "its all done by Glasgow & nothing to do with us" is this true?
Service numbers and joining dates don't always match up, depending on what capbadge you both joined initially, and whether you have prior Regular Army service.

Admin office applies for your medal - sometimes they need a gentle reminder to apply for it, as it's not a common occurrence, it's something that can get missed.

Personally, I think it's not something that should have to be applied for - in this day of computers, APC Glasgow should be able to run off the qualifying list of people every June/July after Bounty payments have been made.
 
#16
I applied for mine in January and it came through two weeks ago. Not bad at all seeing as I waited nearly two years for my Telic medal. If you do the initial paperwork yourself it does speed things up. I've known some blokes wait three or four years after they qualified because the application hadn't been submitted.
 
#17
What about those of us whose service ended a long time ago? Are we entitled to this VRSM? Due to civvy job requirements I left TA in 1988 with 11 years service (ie not enough to qualify for TEM) and enough camps/courses under my belt. Is there any way I can apply, or am I a lost cause after all this time? Not that I intend to swan about with a shiny medal on my chest, but it would be nice to have something to leave my grandchildren. :wink:
 
#18
Toysoldier_1967 said:
OK - Sorry to bring this thread to light again...I am just coming up for 12 years service and have been bounty qualified/ffr every year so how come a WO2 receives his VRSM even though his service number is several thousand below mine?

Not that I'm that pissed (much) but I keep get fobbed off at unit level as "its all done by Glasgow & nothing to do with us" is this true?
Its not done by Glasgow, your Coy Admin Office should speak to your RAOWO, who will submit the appropriate form to the MOD Medal Office.

If you qualify, a medal should be forthcoming within two to three months.

pm me if you have a problem as I can help
 
#19
Hi,

If anyone is waiting for their VRSM I would be interested to hear from them with a Personal Message. I will endeavour to let you know if the MOD Medal Office has received an application from your PSAO and if so a good idea when you can expect your medal.

It will help me find out where the bottlenecks are at the moment.


Regards

UAH

www.medals.mod.uk
 
#20
Hi

I am coming up to the end of my 12th year of continuous service in the TA. In each of these years, bar 1, I have obtained a COs Certificate of Efficiency.

I have been chasing my VRSM via my chain of command/Regt admin staffs for nearly two years now. In spite of this, it would appear that they have not yet made an application to the Medals Office.

The latest story is that they (my admin staffs) cannot confirm whether or not I have the appropriate qualifying years. Additionally, I have just been told that my first year does not count towards the VRSM, regardless of whether or not I got my Bounty in that year (I did)...

I have two queries which I hope someone can answer:

Should there not be an electronic record which shows whether or not I have qualified for, and received, my Bounty in each of the relevant years?

Are they correct when they tell me that the first year does not count?



In addition to the above, can anyone point me in the direction of any online guidance (internet or DII) on the criteria for the VRSM - the Medals Office site quotes DCI JS 53/99, but the DCI only announces the medal, and states that "the Regulations will be issued shortly".

TIA
 

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