Voluntary tax

This is something i have pondered for a while now and thought that those with a better understanding might find interesting and worthy of discussion.

Would a extra voluntary tax work and help ? I.e , an option to pay an extra say £10-20 a month per person with the spending being divided up between Police , Nhs , Military etc.

Would people take part ? Would it mean more money being squandered ? Would it actually help ?
 
This is something i have pondered for a while now and thought that those with a better understanding might find interesting and worthy of discussion.

Would a extra voluntary tax work and help ? I.e , an option to pay an extra say £10-20 a month per person with the spending being divided up between Police , Nhs , Military etc.

Would people take part ? Would it mean more money being squandered ? Would it actually help ?
Would you get the option of deciding what it would be spent on? I would tend to feel that the costs of administering / tracking such a scheme would outweigh the revenues.
 
Would be easier to add 2p on income tax and use that, the current Government won't do that but the temptation must be there and the Opposition Shitefest would probably add 20p to mid earners and 60% for top rate and just waste the money on committees and jaunts to Cuba
 
According to the ONS statistics published in December, in 2017/18 the government received total of £183 billion in income taxes (PAYE and Self-Assessment) and £133 billion in national insurance contributions. These taxes made up over 40% of the £754 billion total current receipts in 2017/18. Spending, known as total managed expenditure, in 2017/18 was £795 billion. The difference between these two numbers is public sector net borrowing (excluding public sector banks) – commonly known as the deficit. This was £41 billion in 2017/18.
Gov website.

How much of a hole in the £41bn would this tax make?
 
This is something i have pondered for a while now and thought that those with a better understanding might find interesting and worthy of discussion.

Would a extra voluntary tax work and help ? I.e , an option to pay an extra say £10-20 a month per person with the spending being divided up between Police , Nhs , Military etc.

Would people take part ? Would it mean more money being squandered ? Would it actually help ?
Years ago, some news organisation (i think the BBC) did a short report on people paying extra tax. About half a dozen people a year do it. (Clearly all those rich socialists were too busy).they didnt have a choice what it was spent on.
Also a few years ago some council had a referendum on paying more local tax to fund services (the old bill I think) funnily enough, that fell on its arse.

Edited to add link to people not wanting to pay more

 
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Are you F-ing serious, who of sound body and mind would voluntary pay into a inherently flawed system, and give their hard earned dosh to HMG, who pisses it up the wall, £13,000,000,000 every year in foriegn aid. and pays the twats in the HoL's an extra £165 P/d over and above their £300 a day attendance fee, so that they can log on from home during the Covid 19 pandemic. It might be viable for the multi-nationals, and very rich working individuals, who can claim it back against running costs, which itself defeats the object.

Is their any cast iron evidence that any extra monies would be channelled into worthy causes, the military, police Etc Remember its the home civil service you are dealing with, not MP's, They are a law unto themselves, MP's are transient, The CS are not, they are the driving force , they ultimately call the shots.

You haven't thought this through.
 
Would it mean more money being squandered ? Would it actually help ?
Asked and answered.

Governments redistribute our hard earned very badly. If you were to do the same in a job, not only would you be sacked, you would end up in gaol.
 
Would be easier to add 2p on income tax and use that, the current Government won't do that but the temptation must be there and the Opposition Shitefest would probably add 20p to mid earners and 60% for top rate and just waste the money on committees and jaunts to Cuba

The OP suggests a voluntary contribution, not an compulsory one by government.
 
Would be easier to add 2p on income tax and use that,
The OP suggests a voluntary contribution, not an compulsory one by government.
You're on one today Mongo, nothing to add but hey, your going to rant anyway... Let’s have another look at what was said:

Would a extra voluntary tax work and help ?
[It]Would be easier to add 2p on income tax and use that,

You could always try reading that which is written before getting all exercised over nothing. Radical idea but you never know...
 

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This is something i have pondered for a while now and thought that those with a better understanding might find interesting and worthy of discussion.

Would a extra voluntary tax work and help ? I.e , an option to pay an extra say £10-20 a month per person with the spending being divided up between Police , Nhs , Military etc.

Would people take part ? Would it mean more money being squandered ? Would it actually help ?
You can do that right now if you want, just set up a standing order to the charities of your choice. With the bonus that many charities are available and you can switch any time you think one isn't as effective as you'd hoped.
 
You could always try reading that which is written before getting all exercised over nothing. Radical idea but you never know...
Reading is difficult for him. He has the cognitive abilities of a pickled whelk.
 
You're on one today Mongo, nothing to add but hey, your going to rant anyway...




You could always try reading that which is written before getting all exercised over nothing. Radical idea but you never know...

The thread was open for discussion, that is exactly what I did, threw in my two pence worth, your reply's are also part and parcel of the thread. All is as it should be...jog on.. This thread has the potential to expand into a good knowledgeable and interesting discussion. One that will encompass all aspects of, politics, economics, and a few home truths,.......... and a few silly comments.
 
Its a discussion , in hopefully the sensible section of this site , thats all .

I think we all know about money being misused but the question is would it work , would people do it and would it help put more police in uniform , pay say lower NHS staff a better liveable wage and perhaps help the military .

No need to get frothing at the mouth , the clue is i the title , VOLUNTARY .

I know many would not want to pay it or could not afford to but if say in my small town of 4000 it meant actually having a Police officer around i would .

Like i said its for people that understand politics , tax and things like that more than myself , i thought it would make a interesting debate ,.
 
You can do that right now if you want, just set up a standing order to the charities of your choice. With the bonus that many charities are available and you can switch any time you think one isn't as effective as you'd hoped.
I mean that your contribution would be going directly to the above mentioned , Police , Nhs , military rather than to a charity .
 
I mean that your contribution would be going directly to the above mentioned , Police , Nhs , military rather than to a charity .
Problem is going to be how the ‘voluntary' tax reaches its intended target...

I want my £50 per month voluntary tax to be spent on public libraries in my town, you want your £80 per month spent 50/50 on police and fire service in the same town...

Who collects and disburses these extra amounts and how is it targeted at the intended recipient bodies?


If councils set up separate funds for local services, e.g. Libraries, Police, Fire, Care Homes etc, targeted contributions would be easier to manage and disburse (but still at risk of diversion to 'greater needs') but when you get to national levels, I fear any ‘voluntary extra tax’ would just be absorbed in the tax take, never to be heard of again.
 
Problem is going to be how the ‘voluntary' tax reaches its intended target...

I want my £50 per month voluntary tax to be spent on public libraries in my town, you want your £80 per month spent 50/50 on police and fire service in the same town...

Who collects and disburses these extra amounts and how is it targeted at the intended recipient bodies?


If councils set up separate funds for local services, e.g. Libraries, Police, Fire, Care Homes etc, targeted contributions would be easier to manage and disburse (but still at risk of diversion to 'greater needs') but when you get to national levels, I fear any ‘voluntary extra tax’ would just be absorbed in the tax take, never to be heard of again.
Yes , i expect to be fair you would have to pool all contributions collectively then distribute . Otherwise you would get lower income areas getting even less . And then a large chunk would be absorbed in administration .
 
Yes , i expect to be fair you would have to pool all contributions collectively then distribute . Otherwise you would get lower income areas getting even less . And then a large chunk would be absorbed in administration .
Ok. So you (for example), wanting your £80/month voluntary tax to go to police and fire, you now know that some of your contribution is going to fund local drop in centres for career doleys amongst other things that you wouldn't ordinarily wish to fund...

Do you still contribute knowing that you’ll be funding stuff you really don’t agree with. That only a tiny fraction of your generous but hard earned voluntary contribution will go where you want it to? It sort of defeats the notion of voluntarily funding th causes that you hold dear, doesn’t it?
 
I would like my voluntary tax money to be split 50:50 between funding whatever will enrage Daily Mail readers the most, and advertising in the Daily Mail that I have done this.

Would this be an option?
 
Ok. So you (for example), wanting your £80/month voluntary tax to go to police and fire, you now know that some of your contribution is going to fund local drop in centres for career doleys amongst other things that you wouldn't ordinarily wish to fund...

Do you still contribute knowing that you’ll be funding stuff you really don’t agree with. That only a tiny fraction of your generous but hard earned voluntary contribution will go where you want it to? It sort of defeats the notion of voluntarily funding th causes that you hold dear, doesn’t it?
Why would it have to go to doleys ? I am talking about a specific tax to go to the Police , Nhs and maybe the military . A contribution that goes to where you want . Would that not be feasible ?
 

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