VLADIMIR Putin has been accused of sending gas prices soaring, which threaten to leave supermarket shelves in the UK bare.

Who is guilty?

  • Putin

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Only Putin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Putin again and again

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Always Putin

    Votes: 2 6.9%
  • Mostly Putin

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Russia along with Norway, Algeria, Qatar, USA and other gas producers

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • Nobody is guilty. It is market. Just pay market price.

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • Some idiots in Brussels and London

    Votes: 9 31.0%
  • Don't know/don't care

    Votes: 3 10.3%

  • Total voters
    29
'Putin' is now the progressive dog-whistle of choice, for any ills of the world.. The root cause is we ditched our domestic coal industry and power generators and will reap the whirlwind or not, as the wind farms are idle.
 

Dwarf

LE
Any halfwit should have seen that allowing a potentially hostile source become a major supplier of a strategic commodity was just asking for this to happen.
Exactly. Politicians making us dependent on a past and potential eneny for short term political gains. Who could possibly have predicted this happening?
 

Dwarf

LE
If Trump was in office this would be the perfect moment to attempt to improve diplomatic relations with Europe. But the Biden admin doesn’t seem to take advantage of these opportunities.
So it's all Biden's fault. Who would have guessed?
 

SteveLancs

Old-Salt
The UK buys gas from Russia ..
UK: oil and gas imports | Statista
What seems odd is that the UK buys oil and gas from the USA, and yet "In 2020, the U.S. imported more oil and refined products from Russian than from Saudi Arabia, with Russia’s share of American oil exports at a record-high 7 percent"
The U.S. Imports Record Share Of Russian Oil Despite Tensions | OilPrice.com
I can only assume the USA buys from Russia and sells to the UK at a profit.Or might they be doing the UK a favor for a change?
 

Diko

Old-Salt
Where does UK gas come from? The UK has been a big producer of gas since the mid-1960s - but output has fallen since 2000 and usage continues to rise. We now import more than half our gas - much of it from Norway, and a considerable amount from the Netherlands and Belgium.
 
It's Putin's fault the gaylord, homosexualist! He's probably an abuser of small children as well. He certainly looks like one and his eyes are too close together.

Nuke him... NUKE HIM.... NUKE HIM NOW!!!!!
 
It's Putin's fault the gaylord, homosexualist! He's probably an abuser of small children as well. He certainly looks like one and his eyes are too close together.

Nuke him... NUKE HIM.... NUKE HIM NOW!!!!!
Unfortunately Putin has a lot of nukes at his disposal and in theory could nuke the whole World several times. So it is not good idea.
Where does UK gas come from? The UK has been a big producer of gas since the mid-1960s - but output has fallen since 2000 and usage continues to rise. We now import more than half our gas - much of it from Norway, and a considerable amount from the Netherlands and Belgium.
It's economy, stupid.
Pres. Clinton
Current gas prices (spot market prices) in Europe are extremely high and they are high for all consumers without any exception. Hardly Norway or Netherlands would use significant discounts for British consumers.
 

cowgoesmoo

Old-Salt
Cut off the gas and electricity to all those russian second homes in London, that should reduce demand and send a blunt message eastwards.
 
It's Putin's fault the gaylord, homosexualist! He's probably an abuser of small children as well. He certainly looks like one and his eyes are too close together.

Nuke him... NUKE HIM.... NUKE HIM NOW!!!!!
It doesn't take many, a few on Moscow, St. Pete's etc, a few on Peking and Shanghai (oh and one on Wuhan to say "thanks!") and who gives a **** about what happens after?

We'll all be dead but as long as we get that child abusing Russian twat, then great.
 
Not gas prices as such, but the whole supply, and to quote GoT, 'Winter is coming'.

'Vladimir Putin has struck a deal with the Iranian regime to tap into a recently-discovered gas field in the Caspian Sea, sparking fears Moscow will soon have complete control over Europe's energy market.

'According to the terms of the deal, the multi-trillion-dollar Chalous gas field will be carved up between Russian, Chinese and Iranian companies. Earlier this year, Iran's Khazar Exploration and Production Company (KEPCO) said the field could hold about 3.5 trillion cubic meters of gas or a quarter of the 14.2 trillion cubic metres of gas found in the South Pars field in the Persian Gulf. However, financial institutions in Germany, Austria, and Italy are reportedly eyeing up potential investment in the project, which may indicate the field's reserves are bigger than initially thought.

'Russia's negotiators have managed to secure a majority share in the gas field, despite it sitting within a section of the Caspian Sea controlled by Iran.

'The landlocked body of water is estimated to sit on top of some 292 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

'A "senior Russian official" who was reportedly involved in negotiating the deal, told OilPrice.com: "This is the final act of securing control over the European energy market."

'Europe relies heavily on third country imports for energy, with Russia being the biggest supplier of crude oil, gas and fossil fuels.

'According to 2019 data published by Eurostat, the statistical office of the European Union (EU), gas accounted for about 27 percent of all energy imports.

'And about 41 percent of that gas came from Russia, followed by Norway (16 percent), Algeria (eight percent) and Qatar (five percent).

'Eurostat warned: "The stability of the EU’s energy supply may be threatened if a high proportion of imports are concentrated among relatively few external partners."

'This threat was highlighted in recent months after the global energy crunch caused gas prices across to Europe to hit record highs, prompting fears of a full-blown energy crisis this winter.'


Putin sounds alarm bells after seizing control of Iran gas in 'final act to secure Europe'
 

Nemesis44UK

LE
Book Reviewer
There we go: Putin has our balls in our hands and we have to let him take Belarus and Ukraine if we don't want to freeze to death this winter.
 
There we go: Putin has our balls in our hands and we have to let him take Belarus and Ukraine if we don't want to freeze to death this winter.

TBH, he already had much of Europe's energy dependency already sewn up, and as far as non-NATO Ukraine and Belarus go, unless the USA or other NATO Allies decide to get involved unilaterally, the response will not be a military one. Even that response will be stymied by the energy issue.

What I found particularly intriguing in that article was the involvement of Chinese companies, potentially allowing the Emperor Xi to influence Russian and Iranian decisions and actions. It's a long way across the 'stans to the Chinese border if it was to be piped back for domestic use, though with China's moves in Afghanistan, never say never.
 
Unfortunately Putin has a lot of nukes at his disposal and in theory could nuke the whole World several times. So it is not good idea.


Current gas prices (spot market prices) in Europe are extremely high and they are high for all consumers without any exception. Hardly Norway or Netherlands would use significant discounts for British consumers.
It's about time the West called Vlads bluff and posture, if it all goes pear shaped so what, it'll be the same consequences for both sides.
 

SteveLancs

Old-Salt
Pepe Escobar explains the situation and it's not the Russians refusing to supply gas but the idiots in Germany refusing to accept it. Russia can earn more from China so it was doing the EU a favour and has been rebuffed.
If you were in Gazprom's shoes, what would you do?
 
Any halfwit should have seen that allowing a potentially hostile source become a major supplier of a strategic commodity was just asking for this to happen.
Blinded by the money. Former Bundeskanzler Schröder is best mates with Putin and on the board of Gazprom, plus a whole bunch of German business men just want to do big business with Russia and sod the political consequences.
 
Pepe Escobar explains the situation and it's not the Russians refusing to supply gas but the idiots in Germany refusing to accept it. Russia can earn more from China so it was doing the EU a favour and has been rebuffed.
If you were in Gazprom's shoes, what would you do?
Ah, ‘SteveLancs from Yorkshire, but that name was taken, so chose the next best thing’ pushing more Russian propaganda:
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-Russia’s-Disinformation-and-Propaganda-Ecosystem_08-04-20.pdf
 

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