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Viking out, Warthog in as 2 RTR unleash new beast

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Soldiers from the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment delivering security in Afghanistan have traded in their old Viking vehicles and upgraded to something even better – the mighty Warthog.

2 RTR, will use Warthog’s outstanding manoeuvrability to bring firepower and armoured support wherever it’s needed. To reflect the new vehicle at their disposal, 2 RTR soldiers in theatre are now known as “Warthog Group” – and they are already renowned as one of the most mobile ground units under British command in Helmand.

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Mobility - Superior
Firepower - Less, in theory (but I would be interested to see how GMG and Rarden compare at typical engagement ranges)
ISTAR - Inferior
Protection - Inferior on paper, but against key threats in AFG, similar or superior
Capacity - Similar


The key though is mobility - all of the other characteristics are almost irrelevant if you can't get them where they're needed.
 
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Does anyone know the full remit of Warthog's role and what will happen to the Vikings and BVs now?

I.e. Does Warthog take over the over-snow/amphibious armoured ATV role as well, or is Warthog only for Afghan/COE use as a very mobile PPV whilst Viking goes back to the over-snow and amphib duties it was originally intended for?

Cheers

V
 
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Thread diversion: Its been mentioned before on many threads regarding Cap badges migrating to over the left ear. But the Guy on top of the Warthog 2nd pic down, his cap badge is Smack bang in the center of his forehead. Is he planning on head butting a terry to death leaving a cap badge impression stamped on the unlucky jihadis face?
 

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Does anyone know the full remit of Warthog's role and what will happen to the Vikings and BVs now?

I.e. Does Warthog take over the over-snow/amphibious armoured ATV role as well, or is Warthog only for Afghan/COE use as a very mobile PPV whilst Viking goes back to the over-snow and amphib duties it was originally intended for?

Cheers

V
Last I heard, Warthog is AFG-only UOR, and Viking will remain the core equipment for the RM Armd Support Gp.

However, plans do have a habit of changing - original plan in 2006 was to gift Mastiff to the Iraqis when we eventually threw in the towel....ermmm...I mean, "move to a position of strategic overwatch"!
 
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Sinner, that's a tankie, wearing his beret in the classic 'Tankie' style, quite common with the the Armoured Corps guys along with the Razz man shouting "get that fecking tankie out of your beret"
 
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Cheers G_B, makes sense that way I guess, pointless using Bronco with all it's extra IED protection in Norway et al and they're obviously needed elsewhere. And Viking seems lighter and smaller - probably better suited as the standard wagon for landing craft, forest tracks, mountain passes etc in the conventional amphib/Northern Flank role, and I doubt Bronco is heli-transportable either.

As a UOR it will be interesting to see if we keep the Bronco's in storage for the next op after Afghan, or if we get rid completely. Hopefully we hang onto them since otherwise we may just have to reinvent the wheel the next time we get into a COIN op in some remote region!
 

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Damn, I thought we were getting all space age and deploying these babies:
Here's one in Iraq:

Biped, you have now mystified the fack out of anyone over 50 who hasn't played HALO....however, you might not be aware that the three barrelled .50 cal Gatling mounted on the Chief's vehicle of choice is based on a genuine weapon system being touted by GEC Macaroni Systems back when God was a boy, Pontius was the Pilot and I worked in Defence Sales.

Good bit of kit.
 
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Biped, you have now mystified the fack out of anyone over 50 who hasn't played HALO....however, you might not be aware that the three barrelled .50 cal Gatling mounted on the Chief's vehicle of choice is based on a genuine weapon system being touted by GEC Macaroni Systems back when God was a boy, Pontius was the Pilot and I worked in Defence Sales.

Good bit of kit.

Looks like it's mounted on an inflatable dinghy...was it intended as armament, or a means of propulsion?! :)
 
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Thread diversion: Its been mentioned before on many threads regarding Cap badges migrating to over the left ear. But the Guy on top of the Warthog 2nd pic down, his cap badge is Smack bang in the center of his forehead. Is he planning on head butting a terry to death leaving a cap badge impression stamped on the unlucky jihadis face?
Tis the only way to wear a Beret, but their is a simpler reason to do with headphones, and looking allier than the Paras :)
 
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As a UOR it will be interesting to see if we keep the Bronco's in storage for the next op after Afghan, or if we get rid completely. Hopefully we hang onto them since otherwise we may just have to reinvent the wheel the next time we get into a COIN op in some remote region![/QUOTE]

if you look at the ST kinetics website (the maker of bronco, it's other name) they make a 5t drops trailer for this and more interestingly a cracking 120mm mortar which looks the poodles parts! hopefully they will keep them and purchase the mortar.
 

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