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Views of america

#1
I was just wondering what peoples basic views of america are? I wasent really talking about the Iraq war and stuff like that but just the overall view of the country.
 
#3
Arrogant wnakers but good people none the less,most hated nation on earth, same boat as us, majority have good morals,values lead by muppets.

Cal
 
#4
By "america" I presume you mean the United States of America.
Its a vast country which is probably more ethnically, culturally and socially diverse than any other nation.
For every American who fits a common social stereotype, you'll find ten who don't.
I like the states, they're not all dumb Virginian rednecks, loudmouthed Texan braggards or fat Mississippi inbreds.
 
#5
shroud_shifter said:
By "america" I presume you mean the United States of America.
Its a vast country which is probably more ethnically, culturally and socially diverse than any other nation.
For every American who fits a common social stereotype, you'll find ten who don't.
I like the states, they're not all dumb Virginian rednecks, loudmouthed Texan braggards or fat Mississippi inbreds.
...and since I live amongst them, I have to say that even the redneck, inbreds braggards have their uses. I spent yesterday (Kentucky Derby day) sucking down mint juleps like there was no tomorrow. Even in The South there are elements of civilisation still to be found.
 
#6
I live there, and there are some good, some bad, some nice, some cnuts etc etc.

It's like a big version of Withernsea, but without the Woolworths.
 
#7
With admittedly few exceptions, I have found most Americans to be welcoming and pleasant, albeit rather out of touch with events outside of the US.

As for the country, varied, generally interesting and I have enjoyed my business and social trips enormously. Not sure I would enjoy myself as much without having a few $ in my pocket, mind you.
 
#8
The mong to ordinary person ratio is about the same as the rest of the world; being a country with a bizarrely partial and over-developed media it just feels like there's more of them; mongs like watching the idiot's lantern so they're disproportionately well represented on it. I refuse to blame a nation's pop. for being poorly informed; that's the federal government's fault for not educating worth a damn. Intelligent Design? Stick it up your hoop.
 
#9
crabtastic said:
shroud_shifter said:
By "america" I presume you mean the United States of America.
Its a vast country which is probably more ethnically, culturally and socially diverse than any other nation.
For every American who fits a common social stereotype, you'll find ten who don't.
I like the states, they're not all dumb Virginian rednecks, loudmouthed Texan braggards or fat Mississippi inbreds.
...and since I live amongst them, I have to say that even the redneck, inbreds braggards have their uses. I spent yesterday (Kentucky Derby day) sucking down mint juleps like there was no tomorrow. Even in The South there are elements of civilisation still to be found.
QED. The Kentucky Derby and mint juleps are exceedingly civilised, dontchaknow. :)
 
#10
shroud_shifter said:
crabtastic said:
shroud_shifter said:
By "america" I presume you mean the United States of America.
Its a vast country which is probably more ethnically, culturally and socially diverse than any other nation.
For every American who fits a common social stereotype, you'll find ten who don't.
I like the states, they're not all dumb Virginian rednecks, loudmouthed Texan braggards or fat Mississippi inbreds.
...and since I live amongst them, I have to say that even the redneck, inbreds braggards have their uses. I spent yesterday (Kentucky Derby day) sucking down mint juleps like there was no tomorrow. Even in The South there are elements of civilisation still to be found.
QED. The Kentucky Derby and mint juleps are exceedingly civilised, dontchaknow. :)
One quick corollary- it depends entirely on how many you've had.
 
#11
crabtastic said:
shroud_shifter said:
crabtastic said:
shroud_shifter said:
By "america" I presume you mean the United States of America.
Its a vast country which is probably more ethnically, culturally and socially diverse than any other nation.
For every American who fits a common social stereotype, you'll find ten who don't.
I like the states, they're not all dumb Virginian rednecks, loudmouthed Texan braggards or fat Mississippi inbreds.
...and since I live amongst them, I have to say that even the redneck, inbreds braggards have their uses. I spent yesterday (Kentucky Derby day) sucking down mint juleps like there was no tomorrow. Even in The South there are elements of civilisation still to be found.
QED. The Kentucky Derby and mint juleps are exceedingly civilised, dontchaknow. :)
One quick corollary- it depends entirely on how many you've had.
And don't forget, how many the topless girls running by have had.

Did you go infield? That's where the most interesting "views" of the race are.
 
#13
Personally, I like most Americans & think the USA is a marvellous country: may be biased because quite a lot of my family are Americans, and there was a time when I seriously considered "going Yank" too.

My nephew is the most recent family member to cross the Pond - needs to "grow" his business, and in his line of work the USA is the place to be. He's in Colorado & loving it - great scenery/ climate; wide open spaces & mountains; friendly people; very easy business environment with plentiful skilled workers to hire who have a great work ethic/ "can do" attitude. The only gripe is the lack of regular public transport. That aside, everything is pretty good - he's bought twice the house for half the money that would be possible in the UK; food, consumer goods, and petrol ("gas") are pretty cheap, and he's already experienced American healthcare - and found it excellent, and affordable when considering that he's paying - by UK standards - really low taxes. That said, of course, the public transport isn't great because there isn't tax revenue to fund it.

Ref healthcare: he dislocated his shoulder skiing - he's had a weakness there for years, but one the British NHS regarded as low priority; endless waiting etc etc.. The American ER doc sorted out the immediate problem, and he saw a specialist the next day - immediate MRI scan etc, and had surgery to fix the shoulder a month later at a time of his convenience. He was impressed. Health insurance covered the lot no problem.

Yes, he's young, generally fit/ healthy, and relatively wealthy. But his girlfriend's parents, who live in Iowa, are not, and each has had serious health problems recently - heart disease, cancer. Both sorted in the minimum time possible - the father had heart by-pass surgery as soon as he was deemed medically stable/ able to withstand it. In the UK this simply would not happen unless you were in immediate danger of dying. I repeat, these are not wealthy people; just ordinary "blue collar" Americans, and yet they haven't been bankrupted by their healthcare needs, nor denied the necessary care. Seems that when we Brits hear about the "nightmare of American healthcare", we're not told the whole story.

Back on main topic - I think most Brits have a generally positive view of the USA: it's our favourite holiday destination for a start, and hundreds of thousands of us choose to live there. Like many Britons, I'm not particularly impressed by the present lot in Washington, but then that's a view shared by more than a few Americans too!
 
#14
Stokey said:
I've met a few Americans through internet games,
Sad. That really is you in the box in your avatar :roll:
 
#15
I hate Them and the Place.
Been here for 11 years. Great Weather, more Money, cheap (still prices), homes at affordable rates. Very low Taxation, compared to the UK.
The People are not the Dullards they would have you think either, much the same mix as elsehwere. As others have said, many Americans are not too well informed about the World beyond the USA, but then is the average Chav' a USI member?
 
#16
Pretty much what others have said. I've met some extremely astute, smart and switched on americans and I've met some absolute mongs.

Particular favorites in the latter category being the bloke who called me a 'fukken moorahn' for describing Sean Connery as British cause, 'everyone knows he Scottish.'
Or the woman who felt that the British had no right to criticise the president, (Bush) because - and I quote: "You lost the war." :D


I guess the relationship, in its broadest sense, can be summed up in a quote that I once read but can't attribute:

"America doesn't much know, like or care about the rest of the world and the rest of the world doesn't much know, like or care about America."
 

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#17
America, like Canada without even the lowest manners of a Quebecois, however their keenness and desire to please can be refreshing! Now we have the recipe for burgers you can take back all your MBA consultants please!!
 
#18
I'm a bit biased on this topic since I'm a Yank. American-bashing seems to be a fad, but I take it all with a grain of salt. There is no such thing as an "average American". The country's too large for that and there are so many perspectives that no single group or region encompasses them all. Yes, Americans can be somewhat lacking when it comes to what's happening in other countries, but I'll bet the same is true for people in many parts of the world. To my way of thinking, the situation here is more related to just how big our country is and not so much that "Americans are ignorant." Yes, our media presents a US-centric view of the world, but when you consider that there are something like 250 million viewers who live here, it may explain it. Unless you've seen the vast expanses here, it's hard to encompass just how big America is. I wonder if a better question might be, "What's your view of the Bush administration?" It seems at the moment that a lot of the frustration folks in other countries feel about the US is more focused on the failings and (in)decisions of the administration. There are so many decent people in the US, it would be impossible to list them all.

cheers, Mark
 
#19
I did meet some terrible stereotypes of Americans (who were students) which completely put me off however I have become more enlightened on the matter due to several American ARRSE members (I wont name them but you can probably guess) who have come across as very intelligent and civilised folk. Still not keen on the accents though.

But the ultra rightwing Christian lobbies of the US are in my eyes vermin.
Also not keen on most US celebs.

to summarise a good septic is as follows: educated, can pull of sarcasm, accepts that Jesus did not speak English, does not have too bad an accent, does not think Bush is a "good guy", accepts that that hollywood films are not documentaries and as such should not act like they are rambo.
The list can go on but wont.
 
#20
Fusil, no arguments with anything you've written. Every nation has the stereotypes of bad/rude behavior that last far longer than memories of good folks. That's unfortunate, but how it is.

The right wing lobby has always troubled me, especially how they've been cynically co-opted for political ends by the republican party. I wonder what God would have to say about the whole thing? :?
 

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