Vietnam Ace Congressman on the take

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Goatman

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This is what happens (eventually) to people who go through life with the attitude

'Rules are for other people '

Hubris....closely followed by inevitable nemesis.........what was the impending criminal case that impelled this trusty representative of the people to 'come clean ' ? Who stands to benefit from bringing the guy down ?

Le Chevre
 
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Goatman said:
This is what happens (eventually) to people who go through life with the attitude

'Rules are for other people '

Hubris....closely followed by inevitable nemesis.........what was the impending criminal case that impelled this trusty representative of the people to 'come clean ' ? Who stands to benefit from bringing the guy down ?

Le Chevre
The fact that he was nailed to the floor and prosecutors are still looking into other charges (and he is now co-operating with the investigation as part of a plea bargain).

He wasn't exactly being subtle. A Congressman makes $162k a year. Let's throw in whatever a Cdr's pension is. Now then let's take a look at his lifestyle;

1. A $2.55million house (bought from proceeds of the sale of his previous house, at nearly twice the market value, to a contractor)
2. A 42ft yacht that served as his DC residence (owned by a defence contractor, who threw in yacht club fees too.)
3. A $200,000 deposit on a condo
4. A Rolls Royce

etc. etc.

Meanwhile:

Los Angeles Times
November 27, 2005 Sunday
SECTION: MAIN NEWS; Foreign Desk; Part A; Pg. 1

THE CONFLICT IN IRAQ;
A Journey That Ended in Anguish;
Col. Ted Westhusing, a military ethicist who volunteered to go to Iraq, was upset by what he saw. His apparent suicide raises questions.


BYLINE: T. Christian Miller, Times Staff Writer

DATELINE: WASHINGTON

"War is the hardest place to make moral judgments."

Col. Ted Westhusing, Journal of Military Ethics

WASHINGTON -- One hot, dusty day in June, Col. Ted Westhusing was found dead in a trailer at a military base near the Baghdad airport, a single gunshot wound to the head.

The Army would conclude that he committed suicide with his service pistol. At the time, he was the highest-ranking officer to die in Iraq.

The Army closed its case. But the questions surrounding Westhusing's death continue.

Westhusing, 44, was no ordinary officer. He was one of the Army's leading scholars of military ethics, a full professor at West Point who volunteered to serve in Iraq to be able to better teach his students. He had a doctorate in philosophy; his dissertation was an extended meditation on the meaning of honor.

So it was only natural that Westhusing acted when he learned of possible corruption by U.S. contractors in Iraq. A few weeks before he died, Westhusing received an anonymous complaint that a private security company he oversaw had cheated the U.S. government and committed human rights violations. Westhusing confronted the contractor and reported the concerns to superiors, who launched an investigation.

In e-mails to his family, Westhusing seemed especially upset by one conclusion he had reached: that traditional military values such as duty, honor and country had been replaced by profit motives in Iraq, where the U.S. had come to rely heavily on contractors for jobs once done by the military.

His death stunned all who knew him. Colleagues and commanders wondered whether they had missed signs of depression. He had been losing weight and not sleeping well. But only a day before his death, Westhusing won praise from a senior officer for his progress in training Iraqi police.

His friends and family struggle with the idea that Westhusing could have killed himself. He was a loving father and husband and a devout Catholic. He was an extraordinary intellect and had mastered ancient Greek and Italian. He had less than a month before his return home. It seemed impossible that anything could crush the spirit of a man with such a powerful sense of right and wrong.

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Crabs,

thanks.....sincere sympathies with Col Westhusing's family. He sounds like an idealist who found only anguish at the reality of US administration in Iraq. Like most Brits, I have only a dim glimmer of what it means to be a Pointer....how people reconcile what they have been taught in places like West Point, Annapolis and Sandhurst with what they find in Iraq is key to survival...not just during the Op tour but AFTERWARDS.

How the US and our own forces treat people post op tour is KEY to whether they will still be effective, either as soldiers or as mensch.

Le Chevre
 
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There is something very very sad about greed allegedly getting in the way of honour. Did Cunningham support McCain on the torture bill by the way?
 
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PartTimePongo said:
There is something very very sad about greed allegedly getting in the way of honour. Did Cunningham support McCain on the torture bill by the way?
The torture bill/amendment hasn't been given time for a vote on the House floor. Most House Republicans have been staying quiet. Don't know either way.

P.S. There is nothing to allege. He confessed to all.
 
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Cunningham is a disgrace and needs to go away for a long, long time. But to try and trott him out as a poster child of "Republican corruption" is laughable....lest we not forget the S&L , ABSCAM and the House Bank and many more scandals which took down far more Democratic Congressmen and Senators then this little faux paux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_scandals_of_the_United_States#1975_-_1999
:roll:

Republicans still hold the "moral high ground" ... it is getting a bit soft under our feet but we hold it none the less and will and are winning ground back as Rove remains unindicted and DeLay will prove the prosecutor to be a political lacky. Behold we are watching the Dems as a party disappear...then we the US have to contend with what the Euros have a multi party system where ever jackass party can emerge and we have elections every 14 days :roll:
 

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ctauch said:
...then we the US have to contend with what the Euros have a multi party system where ever jackass party can emerge and we have elections every 14 days :roll:
...as opposed to the current estimable American system where only multi-millionaires can stand for President with any chance of a succesful run, campaigns which must be bankrolled from the second year into any Presidency, leaving the bewildered and perplexed citizenry (well those with an IQ higher than room temperature anyway) presented with Hobson's Choice ?

Choose then...between a jackass in office being manipulated by his V-P, who cannot be removed for a further four years or the least offensive of a bunch of political pygmies........

Viva Ross Perot! :lol:

Lee Shaver
 
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Goatman said:
ctauch said:
...then we the US have to contend with what the Euros have a multi party system where ever jackass party can emerge and we have elections every 14 days :roll:
...as opposed to the current estimable American system where only multi-millionaires can stand for President with any chance of a succesful run, campaigns which must be bankrolled from the second year into any Presidency, leaving the bewildered and perplexed citizenry (well those with an IQ higher than room temperature anyway) presented with Hobson's Choice ?

Choose then...between a jackass in office being manipulated by his V-P, who cannot be removed for a further four years or the least offensive of a bunch of political pygmies........

Viva Ross Perot! :lol:

Lee Shaver
correction Bush is Republican as such a elephant, jackass is the democrate party symbol. At least our "leader" is directly elected by the population and not appointed by his party lackies :D
 

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