Victory! Veterans will officially be able to wear their PJM.

seaweed

LE
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#4
And brings us into line, after years of stonewalling by civil servants struggling with their usual inferiority complex, with Australia and New Zealand. This is also the end of a long-iunning, gratuitous FCO insult to the King and Goivernment of Malaysia, which makes one wonder whether the FCO is fit for purpose.
 
#7
With respect, Is this another bling medal? are you 'awarded' it, does it have your Number, rank and name on it? or do you have to buy it? surely if it does not have the Queens Head on, it's bling??
 
#8
It's obviously something that's very much deserved, but I don't understand the mentality behind campaigning to be able to wear it. For one thing, what does it really matter whether you have a bit of metal proving what you did? For another, if you're not serving, just wear the damn thing.

As much as I like the 'veterans' who turn out with berets, medals, badges and flags at every chance they get, I can't help but find it sad that - in the 30, 40 or 50 years since leaving the forces - they're still banging on about their military service.
 
#9
Stand by........
 
#10
Having read some of the links, who said that people couldn't wear it?

Is this a load of fuss about **** all?
 
#11
It's obviously something that's very much deserved, but I don't understand the mentality behind campaigning to be able to wear it. For one thing, what does it really matter whether you have a bit of metal proving what you did? For another, if you're not serving, just wear the damn thing.

As much as I like the 'veterans' who turn out with berets, medals, badges and flags at every chance they get, I can't help but find it sad that - in the 30, 40 or 50 years since leaving the forces - they're still banging on about their military service.
Deserved ? Why ? This bit of bling was the result of ex British servicemen asking a foreign government for it. Effing pathetic. The GSM is for campaign service, i.e being there, whats this bit of tin for.
 
#12
Deserved ? Why ? This bit of bling was the result of ex British servicemen asking a foreign government for it. Effing pathetic. The GSM is for campaign service, i.e being there, whats this bit of tin for.
I might be confused. I thought this was a medal issues to blokes who were there?
 

RP578

LE
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#13
With respect, Is this another bling medal? are you 'awarded' it, does it have your Number, rank and name on it? or do you have to buy it? surely if it does not have the Queens Head on, it's bling??
I think they were awarded it by the Government of Malaysia. As for their service details and the Monarch's image, UN and NATO medals don't have them on either, but are still legitimately worn.

kilo42 said:
As far as I am concerned its still just bling, even more so if the proud wearer does not have an accompanying GSM.
Ironically, the guys without a GSM (either version) probably have most claim to be able to wear it as they won't breach the 'Double Medal' rule.

DeltaDog said:
For one thing, what does it really matter whether you have a bit of metal proving what you did?
I know what you mean and often feel the same, but then again the logical extension of that argument is, why bother with any campaign medals at all?

Personally, I think the double medal rule is a good one. If you've got a medal to show service in one campaign why replicate it? People often slag off the Americans, but the Aussies are a good indicator of what can happen if you start doubling up e.g. a digger who served in Viet Nam could conceivably have the Australian Active Service Medal 1945–1975 with Clasp 'VIETNAM', the Vietnam Medal and the Republic of Vietnam Campaign Medal. That's three gongs for one tour and that's before the Australian Defence Medal or the Anniversary of National Service Medal if he was a Nasho.
 
#14
#15
It's obviously something that's very much deserved, but I don't understand the mentality behind campaigning to be able to wear it. For one thing, what does it really matter whether you have a bit of metal proving what you did? For another, if you're not serving, just wear the damn thing.

As much as I like the 'veterans' who turn out with berets, medals, badges and flags at every chance they get, I can't help but find it sad that - in the 30, 40 or 50 years since leaving the forces - they're still banging on about their military service.
Is this something you cannot talk about, or remember? what service do you have?
 
#16
#17
I might be confused. I thought this was a medal issues to blokes who were there?
It is, it is awarded by the Malaysian Gumint for services rendered by Brit and Comonwealth servicemen and women in Malaysia, I was there and I want mine please, for two and a half sweaty sometimes bladdered years which I thoughroly enjoyed (Excuse spelling, I,m old and it was 40 years ago)
 
#19
I think they were awarded it by the Government of Malaysia. As for their service details and the Monarch's image, UN and NATO medals don't have them on either, but are still legitimately worn.
This was "awarded" after a campaign by some ex British servicemen who petitioned the Malayan government for a gong. The whole thing is just sad. A bunch of sad old farts that need some sort of personal ego boost when they take part in an annual remembrance Sunday parade or any other occasion that lets them dress up in bits of uniform.
Ironically, the guys without a GSM (either version) probably have most claim to be able to wear it as they won't breach the 'Double Medal' rule.
[COLOR="#0000CD[COLOR="#0000FF"]"If they don't even have a GSM for the time they were serving in Malaya or Singapore why the hell do they think they need or deserve any sort of medal at all. Maybe to much chlorine in the swimming pool or perhaps they caught a dose?[/COLOR][/COLOR]
 

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