Aquavite
War Hero
Normal SOPs in cases like this are to take a run-up, toe punt the dosser into an instant coma and lag on his doss bag
*Copyright "Geordie W", SoHo, circa 1992.
Veterans sleeping on the streets, true or false ?
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War Hero
*Copyright "Geordie W", SoHo, circa 1992.
We used to change ours with A Sqn. But it was on Thursdays.
Chef
LE
Did he spin you a dit about rescuing cats and dogs from the Taliban? If so he's probably gen.
If there is a higher number of veterans sleeping on the street, is a possible reason being that they may be better equipped to do so than the general population?
Most veterans will have slept out in arduous conditions both with and without a sleeping bag and may as a result be more able to cope with sleeping on the streets both mentally and physically.
Most veterans will have slept out in arduous conditions both with and without a sleeping bag and may as a result be more able to cope with sleeping on the streets both mentally and physically.
Aquavite
War Hero
Yeah, it's obviously all to do with the bouncing bomb doss bag.
Unfortunately he was too busy telling a woman he was going to set her on fire.
Still gen.
Civvy Scum
MIA
He lived in the bogs? What is the world coming to?
Pro dossers learnt their trade with nipple high 58 doss bags.
They gave a load in the Netherlands low strength beer if they cleared parks etc. got them off the stronger stuff. Not a bad idea.
Where did you get this from? Utter crap.
Ah ok it must be a myth that there are organizations out there who try and help them.
Ding Dong!
Old-Salt
Splendid word.
Nope, he's quite correct....
Who is a “veteran” in the UK ? Veterans are defined as anyone who has served for at least one day in Her Majesty's Armed Forces (Regular or Reserve) or Merchant Mariners who have seen duty on legally defined military operations.
exbleep
LE
Nothing new under the sun. ISTR we had this conversation at least 15 years ago.
I posted then that I was a practice manager for a group of doctors in Leicester. They had two homeless hostels they looked after and asked me, as an ex-squaddie, to try and chat to some as there was a rather large ex-servicemen percentage among those dossing down.
Both hostels had about 80 beds and the proportion of ex-servicemen seemed to be about 60 of them.
I had a chat to most of them and found that only 2 had actually done more than a year in the Forces. Others had "applied" to join and been turned down but still classed themselves as ex. More than 20 had turned up for basic training and either opted out or were booted out before training finished. I think, long time ago, that a dozen of them had gone through basic and then binned, or got binned, on the next phase and most of those were for drinking or psych problems.
Only one had actually served at least 6 years and was being treated for PTSD due to being on Galahad in the Falklands. Funnily enough, he was the only one who made an effort in the morning by washing and shaving etc.
Out of the 60, just two were genuine "veterans".
The hostels may not be the best examples as the rule was anyone obviously on drugs or in an inebriated state were not allowed a bed for the night. They were given breakfast at 8 in the morning and then had to leave and couldn't book back in until 6 that evening. Quite a lot would hang around the bus or train station with "ex-serviceman" cards and begging.
My conclusion to the doctors was that the vast majority would have failed in life as they did in the Forces.
I posted then that I was a practice manager for a group of doctors in Leicester. They had two homeless hostels they looked after and asked me, as an ex-squaddie, to try and chat to some as there was a rather large ex-servicemen percentage among those dossing down.
Both hostels had about 80 beds and the proportion of ex-servicemen seemed to be about 60 of them.
I had a chat to most of them and found that only 2 had actually done more than a year in the Forces. Others had "applied" to join and been turned down but still classed themselves as ex. More than 20 had turned up for basic training and either opted out or were booted out before training finished. I think, long time ago, that a dozen of them had gone through basic and then binned, or got binned, on the next phase and most of those were for drinking or psych problems.
Only one had actually served at least 6 years and was being treated for PTSD due to being on Galahad in the Falklands. Funnily enough, he was the only one who made an effort in the morning by washing and shaving etc.
Out of the 60, just two were genuine "veterans".
The hostels may not be the best examples as the rule was anyone obviously on drugs or in an inebriated state were not allowed a bed for the night. They were given breakfast at 8 in the morning and then had to leave and couldn't book back in until 6 that evening. Quite a lot would hang around the bus or train station with "ex-serviceman" cards and begging.
My conclusion to the doctors was that the vast majority would have failed in life as they did in the Forces.
Stanchion
LE
I had many conversations with single homeless when I was a volunteer for a long established and practical organisation which few, certainly outside London, will have heard of.
It doesn't make them any less worthy of sympathy of course, but so many will tell you what they believe is what you want to hear
You are right of course, and the perception often becomes the fact.
If helps to do some homework, before you start getting all mouthy.
I accept apologies, before I twat your (sock) account with so many points you won't be coming back.
Chef
LE
Stone me, I've just discovered I qualify as a veteran! With the colours, man and boy, in the TA* 25 odd years and I can apply for a free badge. Truly we live in an age of bounty.
*Boy first man later obviously.
Ding Dong!
Old-Salt
There must have been loads of 5foot nothing shortarsses in the mob in the 50s to require the design of such a comedy slug.
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