Venezuela - coup d'état?

Somebody have to protect peaceful population from barbaric bombing and terrorists.
And obviously it is not Brits who can fight against world's evil.
You ARE the world's evil. You are a sordid, degenerate rabble of war criminals working for a Chekist organised crime ring.

Which makes your claim to be "defending" the starving wretches of Venezuela from "barbaric bombing" rather ironic, as that is precisely what most people associate Russia with doing.
 
Pompeo urges Moscow in phone call to cease 'unconstructive behaviour' in Venezuela | Reuters
Pompeo to Lavrov, asking Russia to 'cease its unconstructive behaviour' and support Guaido over the 'illigitimate regime of Nicolas Maduro':
“The secretary told Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov that the United States and regional countries will not stand idly by as Russia exacerbates tensions in Venezuela,” Palladino said in a statement.

The call appears to have been prompted by reports of the arrival on Sunday in the Venezuelan capital, Caracas, of two Russian air force planes carrying a Russian defence official and nearly 100 troops, amid strengthening ties between Caracas and Moscow.

The State Department statement did not refer to the arrival of the Russian passenger jet and a military cargo plane, although it condemned Russian military support for the “illegitimate regime of Nicolas Maduro.”
 
Are they their to fix the electricity? Are they there to collect more gold from the people of Venezuela?

Or does Russia really believe it will get S-400s into South America.
 

Grey Fox

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Pompeo urges Moscow in phone call to cease 'unconstructive behaviour' in Venezuela | Reuters
Pompeo to Lavrov, asking Russia to 'cease its unconstructive behaviour' and support Guaido over the 'illigitimate regime of Nicolas Maduro':
He-he-he. What the stupid/hypocritical Septic! If Russia will recognise Jeremy Corbin as the only legitime Ruler of British Republic, steal British money, and sabotage their nuclear plants (and USA will support choise of British people) who will be provide 'unconstructive behaviour'?
 
He-he-he. What the stupid/hypocritical Septic! If Russia will recognise Jeremy Corbin as the only legitime Ruler of British Republic, steal British money, and sabotage their nuclear plants (and USA will support choise of British people) who will be provide 'unconstructive behaviour'?
Corbyn is leader of the opposition, not head of the National Assembly like Guaido.

Is Russia stealing Venezuelan gold any better?
 
Corbyn is leader of the opposition, not head of the National Assembly like Guaido.

Is Russia stealing Venezuelan gold any better?
If so, they will need head torches. The lights went out again.

The Russians will have to go stealing and raping in the dark.
 

Grey Fox

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Corbyn is leader of the opposition, not head of the National Assembly like Guaido.
Does it matter - Corbyn, Truss, John-from-pub or anybody else? It is not Russian busyness, it is not Septic business, it business only of Venezuellan/British people, what do they preffer - corrupted socialistic government or corrupted capitalistic governent.

Is Russia stealing Venezuelan gold any better?
Russia isn't 'stealing'. Russia give weapon, soldiers, food, dollars, security in exchange for gold and oil
Good deal "win-win", much better than suggested by Brits and Yanks.
 
Does it matter - Corbyn, Truss, John-from-pub or anybody else? It is not Russian busyness, it is not Septic business, it business only of Venezuellan/British people, what do they preffer - corrupted socialistic government or corrupted capitalistic governent.
It is up to the Venezuelan people. So why are Russians an soldiers helping a corruptly ‘elected’ official? I suppose they’re used to that
Russia isn't 'stealing'. Russia give weapon, soldiers, food, dollars, security in exchange for gold and oil
Good deal "win-win", much better than suggested by Brits and Yanks.
But not allow in US aid? Allow Maduro to ‘sell’ his country’s gold despite a possible constitutional change?
 

Grey Fox

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It is up to the Venezuelan people. So why are Russians an soldiers helping a corruptly ‘elected’ official? I suppose they’re used to that
He is elected by Venezuella's people, and what is even more important, he suggested better deal.
But not allow in US aid?
USA stealth 30 billions dollars of Venezuella money and send weapon for terrorists. If they really wanted to help Venezuella - they have just to return their money.
Allow Maduro to ‘sell’ his country’s gold despite a possible constitutional change?
It is his country, and Venezuella's people allowed him (not to May or Trump) to decide when and how trade their gold.
 
He is elected by Venezuella's people, and what is even more important, he suggested better deal.
Discussed previously re his ‘election’ hence the calls for a rerun and Guaido invoking the constitution
USA stealth 30 billions dollars of Venezuella money and send weapon for terrorists. If they really wanted to help Venezuella - they have just to return their money.
US steal and Russia doesn’t?
It is his country, and Venezuella's people allowed him (not to May or Trump) to decide when and how trade their gold.
Hence Guaido being recognised. Maduro and predecessors have ruined the country.
 

Grey Fox

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Discussed previously re his ‘election’ hence the calls for a rerun and Guaido invoking the constitution
Bla-bla-bla. It is only Venezuells's inner busines. As far as I know, last British King, elected by British people was Richard III. It does not mean, that Russia should recognise or not recognise current British regime.
US steal and Russia doesn’t?
Yes. Thats why Septics are bad, and Russians are good.


Hence Guaido being recognised.
He was recognised by Septics and Underseptics only. He was not recognised by Venezuella's people, Venezuella's Army, and, most important, he was not recognised by Russia.

Maduro and predecessors have ruined the country.
No. USA tryied to ruin the country, but failed. Thy will try more, but they will failed, too.
Russia shall win.
 
Bla-bla-bla. It is only Venezuells's inner busines. As far as I know, last British King, elected by British people was Richard III. It does not mean, that Russia should recognise or not recognise current British regime.
Venezuelan constitution.
Yes. Thats why Septics are bad, and Russians are good.
:) that is funny
He was recognised by Septics and Underseptics only. He was not recognised by Venezuella's people, Venezuella's Army, and, most important, he was not recognised by Russia.
The ‘usual suspects’. Who’s left with Maduro now?
No. USA tryied to ruin the country, but failed. Thy will try more, but they will failed, too.
It was ruined before any sanctions were applied
Russia shall win.
Maybe. But at what cost to the Venezuelan people?
 
Russian deployment in Venezuela includes 'cybersecurity personnel' : U.S. official | Reuters
Allegedly the Russian troops include SF and ‘Cyber Security’ personnel. If the (yet another today) blackouts are caused by ‘hacking’ rather than crumbling infrastructure, the Russians may be used to counter it. Then again, they may just be there to set up more state propaganda and help round up any anti Maduro activists:
The U.S. assessment that the Russian contingent includes cybersecurity specialists and those from “related fields” suggests that part of their mission could be helping Maduro’s loyalists with surveillance as well as protection of the government’s cyber infrastructure.

Russia’s foreign ministry said on Tuesday that the presence of “Russian specialists” in Venezuela is governed by a military-technical cooperation agreement between the two countries. But it did not provide further details.
Bolton talks about Guaidó asking for humanitarian aid, whilst Maduro asks for Russian and Cuban goons:
John Bolton, U.S. President Donald Trump’s national security adviser, said on Tuesday that while Guaido asks for humanitarian aid to help his people, Maduro asks for Cuban and Russian goons to suppress the people of Venezuela. “The military ranks are seeing Maduro’s corruption, violence, and lack of support within Venezuela,” Bolton said in a message on Twitter.
The Lima Group appear to be unhappy with Russian troop deployment:
On Tuesday afternoon the Lima Group of Latin American countries said in a statement it was concerned about the arrival of military airplanes in Venezuela.

“We reiterate our condemnation of any military provocation or deployment that threatens peace and security in the region,” said the group formed in 2017 to pressure Maduro, which includes Brazil, Canada, Colombia and Peru.
 

Grey Fox

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Venezuelan constitution.
Only Venezuelan people can decide was it violated or not.
The ‘usual suspects’. Who’s left with Maduro now?
His Army, his nation and the whole Free World
It was ruined before any sanctions were applied
No.

Maybe. But at what cost to the Venezuelan people?
Wrong question. You'd better ask, what price will pay British people for steath Venezuella's gold...
What price are you ready to pay in this conflict?
 

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Any one see the state of one particular oil field in Venezuela last night on the news?
A huge lake covered in oil and the local fishermen were still fishing there.
Kids were even swimming in it. Now I’m no Green member but my god it’s a crime to see the damage this oil is causing and not only that the sheer waste must be astronomical.
I think this alone should prompt some sort of action by the UN.

 

Grey Fox

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Not while Maduro clings to power
It is only Venezuells's people business to decide - should be Maduro in power, or not. It is not a problem of some kind of magic artifact like "One Ring" or wunderwaffe like "Death Star". It is question of unlimited free will of citizens.

‘Free world :D Oh, you’re serious?
Yes. Independent (not underseptic) countries.
No
Wrong question. As I said “At what cost to the Venezuelan people?”
Not much.
It is better to be under sanctions and independent, than underseptic and directly robbered.
 

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