Venezuela about to go down the tubes...a lesson for Corbyn and the Labour Party perhaps?

daz

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"Food and drink for human consumption is usually zero-rated but some items are always standard-rated. These include catering, alcoholic drinks, confectionery, crisps and savoury snacks, hot food, sports drinks, hot takeaways, ice cream, soft drinks and mineral water."


Electricity for domestic and residential use or for non-business use by a charity 5% vat.
So, booze, shit and takeaways then......eat in, learn to cook, take a picnic and flask with you on trips, that will cut down on your vat bill
 
Or you could take the advice of the Venezuelan government and breed rabbits to eat to save money
Venezuela’s government has urged citizens to see rabbits as more than “cute pets” as it defended a plan to breed and eat them – even as the opposition says this would do nothing to end chronic food shortages.

The “rabbit plan” is an effort by the government of Nicolás Maduro to boost food availability. Authorities have also taught citizens to plant food on the roofs and balconies of their homes.

Maduro’s adversaries dismiss such ideas as nonsensical, insisting the real problem is a failed model of oil-financed socialism that was unable to survive after crude markets collapsed.
 

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MrDave

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So, booze, shit and takeaways then......eat in, learn to cook, take a picnic and flask with you on trips, that will cut down on your vat bill
I've got a better idea. I will just continue to shop at Asda, Tesco and Marks and Sparks for my food.
 

MrDave

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Or you could take the advice of the Venezuelan government and breed rabbits to eat to save money
Venezuela is under heavy US sanctions and therefore not a good example to use as a stick to bash socialism. "An even more problematic idea driving current U.S. policy is the belief that financial sanctions can hurt the Venezuelan government without causing serious harm to ordinary Venezuelans. That’s impossible when 95 percent of Venezuela’s export revenue comes from oil sold by the state-owned oil company. Cutting off the government’s access to dollars will leave the economy without the hard currency needed to pay for imports of food and medicine. Starving the Venezuelan economy of its foreign currency earnings risks turning the country’s current humanitarian crisis into a full-blown humanitarian catastrophe."


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Hey it's not my idea, it's the socialists advising people to starve to death

I'm merely the messenger
 
Venezuela is under heavy US sanctions and therefore not a good example to use as a stick to bash socialism. "An even more problematic idea driving current U.S. policy is the belief that financial sanctions can hurt the Venezuelan government without causing serious harm to ordinary Venezuelans. That’s impossible when 95 percent of Venezuela’s export revenue comes from oil sold by the state-owned oil company. Cutting off the government’s access to dollars will leave the economy without the hard currency needed to pay for imports of food and medicine. Starving the Venezuelan economy of its foreign currency earnings risks turning the country’s current humanitarian crisis into a full-blown humanitarian catastrophe."


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Total bollocks... socialist command economies fail. It wasn’t the US that made the Venezuelan government set maximum prices for things like toilet rolls leading to a) local manufacturers packing it in as they were unable to make a profit and b) people actually smuggling in items such as toilet roll, toothpaste and soap.
 

Sammer

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Venezuela is under heavy US sanctions and therefore not a good example to use as a stick to bash socialism. "An even more problematic idea driving current U.S. policy is the belief that financial sanctions can hurt the Venezuelan government without causing serious harm to ordinary Venezuelans. That’s impossible when 95 percent of Venezuela’s export revenue comes from oil sold by the state-owned oil company. Cutting off the government’s access to dollars will leave the economy without the hard currency needed to pay for imports of food and medicine. Starving the Venezuelan economy of its foreign currency earnings risks turning the country’s current humanitarian crisis into a full-blown humanitarian catastrophe."


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I’m curious @MrDave have you ever actually spoken to a Venezuelan? Have you any idea what the people are going through, on a daily basis just to survive?
 
The food shortages are so dire yet Venezuela refuses help from the UN and likes of Amnesty International, causing 3 million people to flee the country since 2014

Shortages in Venezuela of regulated food staples and basic necessities have been widespread following the enactment of price controls and other policies under the government of Hugo Chávez and exacerbated by the policy of withholding United States dollars from importers under the government of Nicolás Maduro. The severity of the shortages has led to the largest refugee crisis ever recorded in the Americas.

The Bolivarian government's denial of the crisis and its refusal to accept offers of aid from Amnesty International, the United Nations, and other groups has made conditions even worse.] The United Nations and the Organization of American States have stated that the shortages have resulted in unnecessary deaths in Venezuela and urged the government to accept humanitarian aid.
 

daz

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I've got a better idea. I will just continue to shoplift at Asda, Tesco and Marks and Sparks for my food.
Closer to the mark
 
Venezuela is under heavy US sanctions and therefore not a good example to use as a stick to bash socialism. "An even more problematic idea driving current U.S. policy is the belief that financial sanctions can hurt the Venezuelan government without causing serious harm to ordinary Venezuelans. That’s impossible when 95 percent of Venezuela’s export revenue comes from oil sold by the state-owned oil company. Cutting off the government’s access to dollars will leave the economy without the hard currency needed to pay for imports of food and medicine. Starving the Venezuelan economy of its foreign currency earnings risks turning the country’s current humanitarian crisis into a full-blown humanitarian catastrophe."


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If you actually knew anything about Venezuela, you would know that blaming sanctions for the chaos there is both misdirected and pathetic.
The crisis in Venezuela is directly attributable to the Chavezista governments politicising PDVSA and using it as a cash cow to finance their political programmes. Instead of using at least some of PDVSA's earnings to reinvest in people, equipment and maintenance, they bled it dry. Even accounting for the drop in the oil price (and Orinocco Belt oil is very low value inherently) production from PDVSA facilities has dropped like a stone, although it seems to have now hit a hard floor.
In fact, the sanctions have been deliberately designed to minimise their impact on Venezuelan oil, as the US is actually an importer from Venezuela, and Orinocco Belt heavy oil is an important component of the overall mix.
Combine this with a strategic decision to power 85% of the country, including oil processing facilities, from one hydro-electric scheme and throw in a drought and what do you think you get?
All entirely predictable unless you wear red-tinted glasses.
 
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So, booze, shit and takeaways then......eat in, learn to cook, take a picnic and flask with you on trips, that will cut down on your vat bill
Spot on
 
Venezuela is under heavy US sanctions and therefore not a good example to use as a stick to bash socialism. "An even more problematic idea driving current U.S. policy is the belief that financial sanctions can hurt the Venezuelan government without causing serious harm to ordinary Venezuelans. That’s impossible when 95 percent of Venezuela’s export revenue comes from oil sold by the state-owned oil company. Cutting off the government’s access to dollars will leave the economy without the hard currency needed to pay for imports of food and medicine. Starving the Venezuelan economy of its foreign currency earnings risks turning the country’s current humanitarian crisis into a full-blown humanitarian catastrophe."


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The sanctions imposed on Venezuela have been imposed upon them due to their actions.

Sorry but if a Socialist state behaves in such an horrific manner then it should face consequences.
To then blame the US for your countries woes is pathetic. I have dealt with Venezuelan citizens through my work - they aren’t idiots and they know who is to blame for the situation, and it isn’t the US.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/IF10715.pdf


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And this is what Socialism always leads to, as Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido is taken into custody by the Sebin, Venezuela's intelligence agency


If Corbyn gets in expect to see similar, imprison the opposition, to the Gulags with them...

That is real Socialism
 

Sammer

War Hero
Straw pole amongst about 30 Venezuelans that I’ve chatted to this week:

They WANT the USA (or anyone else,) to ‘get’ Maduro. They just want him gone. None of the guys I speak to regularly want to stay away from their country, apart from one who has a very good, well paid job. They feel better off begging on the streets of Lima etc. As much money they can get is changed into dollars (US) and sent home. Their government now imposes a 20% import tax on bank/money gram/&etc transfers into the country.

Venezuela, as it is at the moment, can’t survive much longer.
 

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