Venezuela about to go down the tubes...a lesson for Corbyn and the Labour Party perhaps?

Reality from the BBC! no doubt this sort of thing will be suppressed if the Great Helmsman becomes PM. Perhaps Unison could have a whip round among it's Sister's and Brother's to send a few food parcels to Venezuela? Also a shortage of toilet paper reported, at least Unison could send some copies of the Morning Star?

Begging for food in Venezuela
 
As a Life member of Unison, the local branch AGM was advertsing this venue -- Solidarity with Venezuela. I decided to stay stum, as there are a few rabid Labourites and Momentumites in the local branch. Mind you I enjoyed the sarnies, snacks and drinks afterwrds. I have no interest in the lefty politics of unions. The only reason I joined years was for the annual Unison - Managment collective barganing tussle for local government pay, pensions and employment conditions and greivance procedures. I attend the AGM every year for the grub...... perhaps I am going there under false pretences....:oops::rolleyes:o_O
 
As a Life member of Unison, the local branch AGM was advertsing this venue -- Solidarity with Venezuela. I decided to stay stum, as there are a few rabid Labourites and Momentumites in the local branch. Mind you I enjoyed the sarnies, snacks and drinks afterwrds. I have no interest in the lefty politics of unions. The only reason I joined years was for the annual Unison - Managment collective barganing tussle for local government pay, pensions and employment conditions and greivance procedures. I attend the AGM every year for the grub...... perhaps I am going there under false pretences....:oops::rolleyes:o_O
You must be as you come over as intelligent.
 

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No, there are elderly ladies there who like a grope.
 
More news of the economic miracle of Venezuela...oil workers starving to death as oil production falls for the seventh consecutive year

Once coveted, discarded PDVSA jumpsuits are for sale in street markets.
Maybe some Momentumists could buy these up to wear at meetings and marches, along with their "Che" berets and communist flags.
 

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Ooh! Jeremy Corbyn ..
 
Communists appear to ignore history.

While socialism is less extreme and there are socialist concepts that do work in capitalist societies, and socialist/capitalist western countries, in general Marxism and Communism with their violent rejection of capitalism has rarely worked well.

Sweden, Norway, France, Canada, India and UK are examples of countries with socialist policies, in combination with a capitalist economy and a democratic political system.

Here socialism has achieved a moderation of capitalistic drives for profit at any human expense, without disincentivizing work or brutalizing the populace. They have incorporated socialist policies providing worker benefits, vacation time, health care, subsidized child-care without demanding central control of industry.

China, Vietnam, Cambodia and N Korea are examples of places where communist dictators rose to power and reordered the political and economic structure. Today Cambodia is no longer communist, China and Vietnam politically communist but economically capitalist, while North Korea continues to practice communism.

Who wants to live in N Korea?
 
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Oh it will be different, Labour are getting so left wing that Ken Livingstone will soon be a centerist in the Labour party

And we will be back to the 70's and 80s when even the Newt thought the likes of McDonnell were a bit extreme
 
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If you want a view of Socialism in the UK look at Scotland and minimal alcohol pricing.
It is better that all suffer than a few guilty one gat away with it.
The good Mr, Blair written in 1948.
 
Of course.

It will be different this time. The others weren't doing "proper" socialism.
You are Bugsy and I claim my 5 East Marks.
 
If you want a view of Socialism in the UK look at Scotland and minimal alcohol pricing.
It is better that all suffer than a few guilty one gat away with it.
The good Mr, Blair written in 1948.
What a stupid comment. I won't even be affected, never mind suffering, when minimal alcohol pricing is introduced because I don't buy 3 litre bottles of white cider.
 
If you want a view of Socialism in the UK look at Scotland and minimal alcohol pricing.
It is better that all suffer than a few guilty one gat away with it.
The good Mr, Blair written in 1948.
Not sure what you're driving at with that one, other than stating that you don't agree with minimum pricing of alcohol.

Governments of all stripes have used the law (and particularly taxation) to try to inspire or modify behaviour; it may be a blunt tool perhaps, but is hardly the preserve of socialists.

Consider the use of TESSA's for example, set up but that wishy-washy socialist John Major to inspire and reward people for saving.

Or drink-driving law to modify behaviour of road users, which is so socialist that even commie countries like the US have it.
 
What a stupid comment. I won't even be affected, never mind suffering, when minimal alcohol pricing is introduced because I don't buy 3 litre bottles of white cider.
First they came for the......................................:)
 
Not sure what you're driving at with that one, other than stating that you don't agree with minimum pricing of alcohol.

Governments of all stripes have used the law (and particularly taxation) to try to inspire or modify behaviour; it may be a blunt tool perhaps, but is hardly the preserve of socialists.

Consider the use of TESSA's for example, set up but that wishy-washy socialist John Major to inspire and reward people for saving.

Or drink-driving law to modify behaviour of road users, which is so socialist that even commie countries like the US have it.
But then one could argue that it is not the job of the government to 'try to inspire or modify behaviour.'
Rightly or wrongly. It is the 'moral superiority' attitude of politicians that piss people off.
 

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