Vatican whines re Belgium police pedo priest investigation

BuggerAll

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The Belgium ambassador to the 'Holy See' has been summonsed to hear complaints about Belgium Police investigations into abuse by Catholic priests.

BBC article

Have these people no shame?
 

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BuggerAll said:
The Belgium ambassador to the 'Holy See' has been summonsed to hear complaints about Belgium Police investigations into abuse by Catholic priests.

BBC article

Have these people no shame?
Nope - none whatsoever. They don't like the fact that the police raided the property being used by the church to 'investigate' over 400 allegations. I suspect that this is because the police asked for all evidence and complaints be handed over to them as these where criminal matters, and the church played hardball.

Tough t!ts!
 
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countymounty said:
They will "pray" for the victims,what else would you expect them to do? Allow the law to take it's course?Somehow I don't think so.
When in the history of humankind has a powerfull, and priviliged elite willingly given up it`s perks :?
 
#6
When it comes to PR, the vatican make BP look smooth. After all the scandals and alleged cover ups the vatican had a golden oppotunatey to show they were not above the law, didn't expect to be teated as such and welcome the bad element in their ranks being brought to justice. Instead they proved what a corrupt fcuked up organisation they really are.
 
#7
Methinks it will take a thousand Orange princes on a thousand white horse and a month of glorious twelfths to solf these sick pricks.
 
#8
Among the many things that really get me not just about this story but the whole sickening paedo- and its cover-up-saga, is that the RC hierarchy still, after all that's been happening, seems totally oblivious to the collapse of all moral weight and authority to its finger-wagging homilies, and additionally as though we all not only believed in a God but we believed in the RC version of it - and that no other possibility can be entertained. No doubt His Hole-iness, when he comes to England in September, will once again favour us with his esteemed lectures, berating us for our own 'moral disorder', speaking, as he does, with a unique and direct connection with the Big Guy Himself! I'd like to describe the stance as 'pathetic' but it's gone way beyond that. YET, millions throughout the world continue to look up to this figure and this organisation for 'guidance' as representing 'ultimate goodness and truth'. Why can't they see it? - or are we just supposed to shut up and stop criticising?
Btw I speak as a one-time devout Roman Catholic - until I myself 'saw the light'. Hallelujah!
 
#9
But you´re all forgetting that untill recently Belgium had no anti kiddy fiddling laws at all,and I´m not 100% sure that they´ve even got them now,the whole Government was riddled with paedo´s until a convict spilled the beans a few years ago.
The kiddy fiddling Belgian priests could probably claim that they hadn´t broken any Belgian laws at all untill recently!
In Austria the RC Church is proposing a compensation award scheme that will give victims between 5,000-25,000 Euros depending on the gravity of the offence,maybe they should sue in the USA and get more :twisted:
 
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midnight said:
But you´re all forgetting that untill recently Belgium had no anti kiddy fiddling laws at all,and I´m not 100% sure that they´ve even got them now,the whole Government was riddled with paedo´s until a convict spilled the beans a few years ago.
The kiddy fiddling Belgian priests could probably claim that they hadn´t broken any Belgian laws at all untill recently!
In Austria the RC Church is proposing a compensation award scheme that will give victims between 5,000-25,000 Euros depending on the gravity of the offence,maybe they should sue in the USA and get more :twisted:
What about the laws of their God, does he think that it is OK to molest children?
 
#11
Mind control, extortion, the pursuit of power - Vader felt like an amateur.

 

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#12
that's just the point, Sticky, this whole business is showing a total disconnect between Roman Catholicism and Christianity as it should be. A Christian Pope would first and foremost be concerned for the victims and for their obtaining justice.
 
#13
StickyEnd said:
midnight said:
But you´re all forgetting that untill recently Belgium had no anti kiddy fiddling laws at all,and I´m not 100% sure that they´ve even got them now,the whole Government was riddled with paedo´s until a convict spilled the beans a few years ago.
The kiddy fiddling Belgian priests could probably claim that they hadn´t broken any Belgian laws at all untill recently!
In Austria the RC Church is proposing a compensation award scheme that will give victims between 5,000-25,000 Euros depending on the gravity of the offence,maybe they should sue in the USA and get more :twisted:
What about the laws of their God, does he think that it is OK to molest children?
I suppose you´d better ask God that one and I´m not sure If God(according to the RC Church)likes Queers either but according to the TV yesterday about 70% are homosexuals and this from two priests who were kicked out for admitting their ´sins´.I think paedo´s should be hung by their balls but I was writing that Belgium is full of hypocrites as they have a terrible record on child sex acceptance.
About 20 years ago British police wanted to arrest known child sex offenders some of whom were lawyers or even judges,they were tipped off and fled to Belgium.Belgium refused to extradite the perverts saying that they hadn´t broken any of their laws as sex with children wasn´t a crime there.
 
#14
Well, regardless of the doubtless justified reputation of Catholic priests being child violinists, I must point out that it occurs in all religions, cultures, times and civilizations. It isn't just the Catholics.

Tam
 
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TamH70 said:
Well, regardless of the doubtless justified reputation of Catholic priests being child violinists, I must point out that it occurs in all religions, cultures, times and civilizations. It isn't just the Catholics.

Tam
No but they try to take the moral highground and tell the rest of us mere mortals how we should live and behave,and If we don´t threaten us with hellfire and eternal suffering whilst stuffing boodles of dosh into their back pockets on the way, they still hold enormous power in some countries including Southern Ireland.
 

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#16
You've missed it (again) Tam. It's the institutionalised protection of paedophiles from the very top that makes the RC church different, its pretence that its priests are above the law.
 
#17
"You've missed it (again) Tam. It's the institutionalised protection of paedophiles from the very top that makes the RC church different, its pretence that its priests are above the law."

Well duh! D'oh! A deer, a female deer, ray, a drop of golden sun...


Me Catholic, me not thick, me name not Mongo. Me thought all that stuff Seaweed said was just too bloody obvious to repeat ad nauseam and me also thought that me needed to bring some balance to a discussion that even me as a (very lapsed) Catholic finds just a tad distasteful.

Besides, all religions are guilty of ****ing around children. Some religious practictioners take it literally is all.

And every, I repeat every, religion, thinks that its priests and scribes and pharisees and mullahs and imams and gurus and swamis and so on are above any temporal law, subject to whatever big bearded man in the sky/elephant headed/falcon headed/amorphous entity they believe they answer to.

Tam
 

BuggerAll

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Not relevant to the thread but recently whilst driving around the Republic I noticed that the Catholic Church managed to put up a lot of churches during the 'potato famine'. The poor huddled masses may have been starving but it obviously didn't stop mother church taking their last farthings to throw up pointless temples to its imaginary friend.
 
#19
TamH70 said:
Well, regardless of the doubtless justified reputation of Catholic priests being child violinists, I must point out that it occurs in all religions, cultures, times and civilizations. It isn't just the Catholics.

Tam
Dah Nah! Bingo!

Therefore, no religion has any moral high-ground. B-Stards.
 

seaweed

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#20
There is no institutonalised pretence in the Anglican or non-conformist churches (apart perhaps from the bizarre circus called Mormonism) that its ministers are above the law. As to non-Christian beliefs, I would not regard them as on a par with Christianity which has an altogether superior message as regards our duty to our fellow man - regardless of his affinity. That many individuals find the standard unattainable in practice is a part of the human condition, but in individuals not to be condoned.
 

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