Vallon Mine Detector - Which model?

#1
Following an interesting lecture on the topic the other day I am interested to know which model of mine detector we use. I have been looking on the Vallon website.

I don't imagine it's a secret although perhaps we have one with some special order features. I am just interested to know which of the ones shown is the one we use or closest to it.

Thanks,

Link to Vallon:

http://www.vallon.de/products.lasso?a=mine-detection
 
#3
EX_STAB said:
Following an interesting lecture on the topic the other day I am interested to know which model of mine detector we use. I have been looking on the Vallon website.

I don't imagine it's a secret although perhaps we have one with some special order features. I am just interested to know which of the ones shown is the one we use or closest to it.

Thanks,

Link to Vallon:

http://www.vallon.de/products.lasso?a=mine-detection
Actually in terms of OPSec it is secret! It would be like handing the TB one of our operational vallons and saying "here you go terry, no work out its weaknesses so you can use it against us"
 
#4
So top secret the details and specs are readily viewed with no restrictions on the interweb? Have a word. They probably know how they work better than most of our blokes.
 
#5
I doubt that, they aint stupid, i expect within hours of seeing our Detectors either in person or on the news they had the full specifications of every available model printed off and memorised. Google is a wonderful tool for both sides.

Edit - Ninja'd!
 
#8
Dossbag said:
I doubt that, they aint stupid, i expect within hours of seeing our Detectors either in person or on the news they had the full specifications of every available model printed off and memorised. Google is a wonderful tool for both sides.

Edit - Ninja'd!
Hence the recent move from military grade HE with sharpnel (high metal content) to large HME blast devices (low metal content).


We like to think we are pretty quick on here but THEY are normally quicker even than that.
 
#9
davyskuller said:
So top secret the details and specs are readily viewed with no restrictions on the interweb? Have a word. They probably know how they work better than most of our blokes.
True but even so we should still not advertise here on ARRSE and set the example!

My bold, having taught this kit myself i beg to differ!
 
#10
Count.Dracule said:
davyskuller said:
So top secret the details and specs are readily viewed with no restrictions on the interweb? Have a word. They probably know how they work better than most of our blokes.
True but even so we should still not advertise here on ARRSE and set the example!

My bold, having taught this kit myself i beg to differ!
Having used the bastard thing for 6 and a half month solid and instructing others I don't!!
 
#11
davyskuller said:
Count.Dracule said:
davyskuller said:
So top secret the details and specs are readily viewed with no restrictions on the interweb? Have a word. They probably know how they work better than most of our blokes.
True but even so we should still not advertise here on ARRSE and set the example!

My bold, having taught this kit myself i beg to differ!
Having used the bastard thing for 6 and a half month solid and instructing others I don't!!
Maybe you need to take some instruction from me then!!! :D
 
#12
Count.Dracule said:
davyskuller said:
Count.Dracule said:
davyskuller said:
So top secret the details and specs are readily viewed with no restrictions on the interweb? Have a word. They probably know how they work better than most of our blokes.
True but even so we should still not advertise here on ARRSE and set the example!

My bold, having taught this kit myself i beg to differ!
Having used the bastard thing for 6 and a half month solid and instructing others I don't!!
Maybe you need to take some instruction from me then!!! :D

Check PM's Fellah! ;)
 
#13
In our comprehensive training on Op Barma routines we were issued with two lengths of aluminium tubing covered in black nasty.

Subsequent forensic examination (I peeled back some of the tape) during a fag break revealed the word "Hoover" embossed on them.

Sergeant told me to pack it in when I made 'vrooowhhhooooo' noises up and down the track when we started again.

I don't think they were really mine detectors at all.
 
#14
freedomman said:
In our comprehensive training on Op Barma routines we were issued with two lengths of aluminium tubing covered in black nasty.

Subsequent forensic examination (I peeled back some of the tape) during a fag break revealed the word "Hoover" embossed on them.

Sergeant told me to pack it in when I made 'vrooowhhhooooo' noises up and down the track when we started again.

I don't think they were really mine detectors at all.
lol, good call.

Opsec, should not really be talking about his subject on here, far too hot a subject.... :x
 
#16
I dont think its good for people on ARRSE to discuss technical specs on kit like this. Over the net or not, has it been published in the press?

As others have said, the model used might not even be the same spec that is listed on the link.

Only a little information is aloud to be put out ref specs on the internet, due to DTI & MOD restrictions on this type of information. I only know this as we sell to the Gov departments and are not aloud to list some things some specs) on the internet. For more information about this see Export Control Org, Department for Business Inovation and Skills or DTI.

http://www.berr.gov.uk/exportcontrol

This is not just an export issue, but also about the information on specifications etc.

My company is also a member of ADS, former DMA & APPSS Member, so have abit of experience in this area.
 
#17
I never suggested discussing the details, just which model had been purchased, from photos I'd reckoned the first one DS linked to anyway.

Agreed that discussion of the finer details is inappropriate.
 
#18
bomb-int said:
I dont think its good for people on ARRSE to discuss technical specs on kit like this. Over the net or not, has it been published in the press?

As others have said, the model used might not even be the same spec that is listed on the link.

Only a little information is aloud to be put out ref specs on the internet, due to DTI & MOD restrictions on this type of information. I only know this as we sell to the Gov departments and are not aloud to list some things some specs) on the internet. For more information about this see Export Control Org, Department for Business Inovation and Skills or DTI.
FFS! Any dobber can see a pic of a vallon on the net, in a paper, look up the vallon website and see the specs from vallon's own website!
 
#19
davyskuller said:
bomb-int said:
I dont think its good for people on ARRSE to discuss technical specs on kit like this. Over the net or not, has it been published in the press?

As others have said, the model used might not even be the same spec that is listed on the link.

Only a little information is aloud to be put out ref specs on the internet, due to DTI & MOD restrictions on this type of information. I only know this as we sell to the Gov departments and are not aloud to list some things some specs) on the internet. For more information about this see Export Control Org, Department for Business Inovation and Skills or DTI.
FFS! Any dobber can see a pic of a vallon on the net, in a paper, look up the vallon website and see the specs from vallon's own website!
i would guess that not all specs are listed, nor should be on the net.
 
#20
davyskuller said:
So top secret the details and specs are readily viewed with no restrictions on the interweb? Have a word. They probably know how they work better than most of our blokes.
If you're really 33 as you advertise, you should know better than to pursue this discussion. The Taliban aren't the only show in town.
 

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