USS Bonhomme Richard on Fire

To be really pedantic, CV is Cruiser, Heavier-than-Air Aviation (supposedly from "volante", but that may be ex post facto).

There was also the designation of CZ, Cruiser Lighter-than-Air Aviation...
There are people who think that CVSG stood for Carrier Vehicle Strike Guided weapon. That there are people who think that is only due to the UK's outdated laws on what can be construed a capital crime.....
 

rampant

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Looking at arson as a cause

At least he'll get a trial. The USN rushed to blame the USS IOWA's turret explosion on a suicidal and conveniently dead sailor, rather than admit incompetence and a lack of safety procedures...
 

jrwlynch

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At least he'll get a trial. The USN rushed to blame the USS IOWA's turret explosion on a suicidal and conveniently dead sailor, rather than admit incompetence and a lack of safety procedures...
Look, what could possibly go wrong when a fanatical theorist who's read lots of texts on battleship gunnery is allowed to load AP shells, then ram charge bags marked "DO NOT USE WITH AP SHELL" behind them, in a quest for... something, not sure what, the guy thought it was important and persuaded the CO to ignore the rules?

Oh, and those charge bags had been stored for forty years on a climate-controlled barge... whose HVAC had been broken for at least a decade but it was easier to fake the numbers for temperature and humidity, than fix it.

When those charge bags blew up when shock-tested (replicating being rammed into the breech behind a 2,700lb shell they were never intended to be used with) that merely proved that the "gay murderer" had sabotaged the entire stockpile. Or something. It couldn't ever, possibly, be true that the US Navy had ignored safety problems to keep high-profile headline units running at minimum cost.

Because inventing the idea that a married sailor with a decent record was actually a closeted bum-bandit willing to kill himself and 70-odd shipmates - and have a chance of blowing up the entire ship - over the breakup of a gay tryst that existed in the sense of "nobody can prove it didn't happen", in pre-"don't ask don't tell" days, was a little less awkward than admitting how flaky and marginal the ships and their armament and the training of their crew had become.
 

Cold_Collation

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Look, what could possibly go wrong when a fanatical theorist who's read lots of texts on battleship gunnery is allowed to load AP shells, then ram charge bags marked "DO NOT USE WITH AP SHELL" behind them, in a quest for... something, not sure what, the guy thought it was important and persuaded the CO to ignore the rules?

Oh, and those charge bags had been stored for forty years on a climate-controlled barge... whose HVAC had been broken for at least a decade but it was easier to fake the numbers for temperature and humidity, than fix it.

When those charge bags blew up when shock-tested (replicating being rammed into the breech behind a 2,700lb shell they were never intended to be used with) that merely proved that the "gay murderer" had sabotaged the entire stockpile. Or something. It couldn't ever, possibly, be true that the US Navy had ignored safety problems to keep high-profile headline units running at minimum cost.

Because inventing the idea that a married sailor with a decent record was actually a closeted bum-bandit willing to kill himself and 70-odd shipmates - and have a chance of blowing up the entire ship - over the breakup of a gay tryst that existed in the sense of "nobody can prove it didn't happen", in pre-"don't ask don't tell" days, was a little less awkward than admitting how flaky and marginal the ships and their armament and the training of their crew had become.
See? That’s what happens when you let gayers into the military.

We should be being very careful with all this diversity nonsense.
 
The outlet also stated that the NCIS team dealing with the investigation has "requested help from the National Response Team for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) because the agency provides resources and expertise on complex, large-scale incidents like the massive ship fire."

so a discarded dog end then....
 
The outlet also stated that the NCIS team dealing with the investigation has "requested help from the National Response Team for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) because the agency provides resources and expertise on complex, large-scale incidents like the massive ship fire."

so a discarded dog end then....
ATF has an excellent reputation for analysis of debris samples from fires. They are often called in by state and local police in the US for asistance with forensics. They also have very well trained dogs.

It is a while since the fire and I hope any samples have been stored in new paint cans, preferably in a fridge.
The arson unit of the fire department in my US city were lucky as there was a large paint factory in our town that was generous in providing free paint cans to the FD arson unit.
(I still do not know why a company called California Paint was based in Massachusetts)
 

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