USMC ROE - Really like this?

#1
From a Yank blog - only worthwhile thing is as quoted. Seems very positive. OPSEC permitted, how does it compare with what we do?

Room clearing, as we discussed in The Reasons the U.S. Won’t Clear Ramadi, involves the use of techniques that resemble SWAT tactics. A fire team (in the USMC, four Marines, the leader with a grenade launcher on his M-16, a SAW gunner and two other members) “stacks” at a doorway and furiously enters a room after breaking the door in, firing enough rounds at the inhabitants of the room to kill everyone in the room within a few seconds. There is no time or provision for the delineation of friend from foe. Such a requirement would redound to the deaths of Marines and Soldiers. Insurgents hide behind women and children, lying in wait for the U.S. troops to enter the room so that they can fire on them. This is likely what happened in Haditha as we have discussed before. The deaths of innocents is an unfortunate collateral effect of room clearing techniques. It cannot be any other way. If the decision is made that the enemy inhabits a room and the order is given to clear the room, then these techniques are employed. The way to avoid the collateral deaths of innocents is to refrain from room clearing to begin with, not to change the techniques, thus putting the lives of U.S. troops at higher risk. In fact, the Small Wars Manual notes that there are times when guerrillas may be near women and children and Marines are ordered not to fire because of the possibility of collateral damage.
 
#2
Hmm.. I think there is a little exaggeration going on here. It is still against RsOE to shoot at civilians/non-threats, even when bursting into a room. After all, if you really wanted to kill everyone inside, why bother charging in shooting, and not just lob a hand grenade first? The basic rule of identifying targets as a threat is still in effect.

The basic description is correct, and from what I saw on a British demonstration, you guys do it slightly differently. We do indeed have a four-man-stack, though we try to avoid the guys with the Minimi/SAW and grenade launcher if at all possible being in it as it can get a bit unwieldy.

NTM
 
#3
During contacts in Basra, we raided several buildings on the tail of insurgent types and managed not to kill any civillians...
 

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