USMC Poser Exposed

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That is unbelievable!

The guy had over 20 years of service in the Marines, was a Gunnery Sergeant, and a drill instructor, but still found it necessary to lie about his service.

He should have been proud of what he actually did, rather than walting it up.

Pathetic!
 
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Tartan_Terrier said:
That is unbelievable!

The guy had over 20 years of service in the Marines, was a Gunnery Sergeant, and a drill instructor, but still found it necessary to lie about his service.
He should have been proud of what he actually did, rather than walting it up.

Pathetic!

TT- Think you misheard, he only actually served 7 weeks in total.
 
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Not according to the article:

An investigation, started in 2005, by members suspicious of his claims, has proved that Gugle never served in Vietnam and did not merit wearing any medals for bravery and did not get wounded in combat. In fact, through pictures and other information, it came to light that Gugle has been wearing unauthorized medals on and off since 1971. In addition, Gugle did not retire a Sgt Major, but a Gunnery Sergeant and only served in the Marine Corps for about 20 years and 9 months, not 30 years ( July 1969-April 1990). Gugle went so far as to doctor up a Boot Camp Photo showing him graduating in September 1965 when he actually graduated in September 1969. Gugle in fact has fabricated an entire portfolio of documents to “prove” his service in Vietnam and the recipient of awards for bravery and achievement that he did not deserve.
 
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Trip,
what advantages could these creatures have been trying to get?
Do ex-US servicemen get medical care, govt. jobs or a free car wash?
Over here we tend to ignore our ex-servicemen...
 
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Trip_Wire said:
Here are a couple of articles on a USMC poser exposed, The first is a video with him sprouting lies. (Note: you'll have to listen to the commercials first.)

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox...n=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

This is an article on the same man.

http://www.1stbattalion9thmarinesfirebase.net/LarryGugle.htm
Now, I know you're probably going to start whining about nit-picking, but off hand, I'd say that Walt No.1- James Michael Holden(?) and Walt No.2- Larry Gugle are not one and the same. Apart from having different names, they don't look anything alike, they live in different states and each account gives two completely different stories.

Astounding powers of observation and deduction there, Trigger. No wonder you got to be a police Captain.

That having been said, No.1 was a classic "outing" of legendary proportions and I think the "Waltmobile" of No.2 rivals the fabled Airsoft "Mongpanzer".
 
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Tartan_Terrier said:
Trip_Wire said:
Here are a couple of articles on a USMC poser exposed, The first is a video with him sprouting lies. (Note: you'll have to listen to the commercials first.)

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox...n=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

This is an article on the same man.

http://www.1stbattalion9thmarinesfirebase.net/LarryGugle.htm
Sorry Trip you've posted links to stories about two different guys.
Yes, I made a mistake and I have corrected it. I guess that I saw the two articles on the same post, on another military board that I visit and didn't read into it that much. :brilsmurf:

I've been pretty busy typing replies to other some ARRSE people making some pesonal attacks on me in other areas. :shakefist:

It must be wonderful to be like Crabtastic and never make a mistake and always be right(?) :worship:
 
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Trip_Wire said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
Trip_Wire said:
Here are a couple of articles on a USMC poser exposed, The first is a video with him sprouting lies. (Note: you'll have to listen to the commercials first.)

http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox...n=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

This is an article on the same man.

http://www.1stbattalion9thmarinesfirebase.net/LarryGugle.htm
Sorry Trip you've posted links to stories about two different guys.
Yes, I made a mistake and I have corrected it. I guess that I saw the two articles on the same post, on another military board that I visit and didn't read into it that much. :brilsmurf:

I've been pretty busy typing replies to other some ARRSE people making some pesonal attacks on me in other areas. :shakefist:

It must be wonderful to be like Crabtastic and never make a mistake and always be right(?) :worship:
I wouldn't shoot for the moon just yet. Just try doing it once and see how you get along. After 80 years, the shock might kill you.
 
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gennithmedic said:
Trip,
what advantages could these creatures have been trying to get?
Do ex-US servicemen get medical care, govt. jobs or a free car wash?
Over here we tend to ignore our ex-servicemen...
I have no idea. The one IMHO, had a creditable military career without adding the things he falsely, added to it. I see no real reason, for his action or what it really gained for him, except what happened, his exposure to the lies and his discredit.

The other one of course, is a pure Poser/Walt who lied about all. His motive was to be a war hero and strut around stealing the honor, of those who earned the medals and things he wore the hard way. A typical Poser and/or Walt.

Yes, American war veterans are entitled to medical care for service connected disablities, etc. as well as free medical care if they fall into a certain area.

Of course, military retirees are entitled to free, medical/dental care, PX and/or commissary shopping, standby flights on military aircraft, as well as many other bennies they share with the active military.
 
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Shame on him. The uniform he wears should have been a dead giveaway because if I remember right, Marines have never used this particular pattern, not even in Nam.

I am surprised it took so long for him to be outed. Must be a very small town.
 
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gennithmedic said:
Trip,
what advantages could these creatures have been trying to get?
Do ex-US servicemen get medical care, govt. jobs or a free car wash?
Over here we tend to ignore our ex-servicemen...
I'll take a stab at your question. A free car wash? Well, in a manner of speaking, yes. A number of walts have made financial gain over the years through donations, free meals, drinks, etc. Then there is the adulation heaped upon these poor souls (and yes, I actually feel sorry for them). That seems to be the biggest benefit recieved. But there have also been instances of accused criminals using phony military service to convince a court of their need for a second chance. Likewise, it was popular for some time to have homeless men claim veteran status in order to get a handout. Usually those guys would claim service in Vietnam...and were usually too young to haved served there.
 
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Devil_Dog said:
Shame on him. The uniform he wears should have been a dead giveaway because if I remember right, Marines have never used this particular pattern, not even in Nam.

I am surprised it took so long for him to be outed. Must be a very small town.
I liked the beret though!

I'm not sure about the exact model of uniform he was wearing, but I have definitely seen photos of Force Recon units in Vietnam wearing tigerstripe fatigues.
 
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Tartan_Terrier said:
Devil_Dog said:
Shame on him. The uniform he wears should have been a dead giveaway because if I remember right, Marines have never used this particular pattern, not even in Nam.

I am surprised it took so long for him to be outed. Must be a very small town.
I liked the beret though!

I'm not sure about the exact model of uniform he was wearing, but I have definitely seen photos of Force Recon units in Vietnam wearing tigerstripe fatigues.
TT:

I have never seen a real Marine wear a beret! Ithink in this instance the multi-service fireing squad team wore berets as part of their uniform and he was wearing one as part of that team. You are right about Recon marines wearing TS though.

The American USMC does not wear a beret nor have they ever worn one. So people viewing the picture wondered if he was a UK Marine, who of course do wear Green Berets. (A lille different color then American SF.)

I think some SEALs wore both black and Camo Berets for awahile in Vietnam.
 
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The American USMC as opposed to?

I have it on pretty reliable authority that the USMC Force Recon DID wear berets (black, IIRC) in tha latter stages of Vietnam. I asked a real live Marine...
 
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Here's a photo from the late Vietnam period showing Force Recon Marines. Notice the use of the USMC cover.

Are you sure it wasn't Rangers you meant? They did wear black berets?

T_T

Edited to add:

Photo from this site:
http://www.wulfden.org/1strecon/GALLERY.shtml
 

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