USMC in Afghanistan

#2
Nice isn't a word I'd have used. Holy crap :(
 
#3
I wouldn't have described it as nice either. Is it just me, or does anyone else think that whoever said put the FOB in a spot surrounded by three steep sided mountains is a little bit silly? How on earth can they hope to control the area when movements in and out of the base are not only observed 24/7, but can be fired upon as soon as they're spotted? Scary times for those Marines, and the bloke washing his clothes sums it up in a way we're hearing all too often nowadays "These guys have been fighting here for years, they know the land, they know how to fight here. We're finding it a little more difficult." Best of luck guys, make it home safe!


BTB, anyone ident the heli at 10.40 in the video?
 
#6
8 or 9 months of constant incoming would do anyone's head in, I don't think those men were marines though,

dhgrainger1, I think the helicopter was a kiowa littlebird, but I could be wrong
 
#7
tmsbry said:
dhgrainger1, I think the helicopter was a kiowa littlebird, but I could be wrong
Cheers, on the right track with Kiowa, but it was an OH-58 Warrior. Amazing what a bit of Google can do!
 
#8
The Staffy they spoke to first was USMC. the BDU's he wore are marine uniform. US army wear that grey digicam stuff on ops in Afghan
 
#10
dhgrainger1 said:
tmsbry said:
dhgrainger1, I think the helicopter was a kiowa littlebird, but I could be wrong
Cheers, on the right track with Kiowa, but it was an OH-58 Warrior. Amazing what a bit of Google can do!
looked like it had a little version of longbow on, might be to help out the apaches which didnt.
 
#11
kez89 said:
dhgrainger1 said:
tmsbry said:
dhgrainger1, I think the helicopter was a kiowa littlebird, but I could be wrong
Cheers, on the right track with Kiowa, but it was an OH-58 Warrior. Amazing what a bit of Google can do!
looked like it had a little version of longbow on, might be to help out the apaches which didnt.
OH-58/Kiowa is a bit of the same thing. A Bell Jetranger with improvements. I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong.

9 Months of that is bound to be pretty crap. Hats off to them, it can't be much fun.

Agreed though, who sited it on the low ground?
 
#12
OMG, Who the hell thought of putting that FOB there?????????

3 Sides of hell for those USMC type bods! At least we Brits put our FOBs sort of no where near bloody big hills, those we do we control (ish).

Hats off and safe home to those involved!
 
#13
Thread edited to remove heavy handed attempts at ironic humour.

I don't think any of us there, or about to go over in the near future, have any illusions about the real picture.

That said , what genius thought of siting the FOB in that location?
 
#14
PartTimePongo said:
Thread edited to remove heavy handed attempts at ironic humour.

I don't think any of us there, or about to go over in the near future, have any illusions about the real picture.

That said , what genius thought of siting the FOB in that location?
Same guy who thought coming of that hill to chase William's lot at the Battle of Hastings was a good idea :D
 
#16
PartTimePongo said:
Thread edited to remove heavy handed attempts at ironic humour.

I don't think any of us there, or about to go over in the near future, have any illusions about the real picture.

That said , what genius thought of siting the FOB in that location?
Thank you, seemed a bit sad to be honest,

I reckon the outpost, (it's not a FOB) was set-up there for strategic reasons not tactical reasons. Probably some state department REMF or Afghan politician demanded a military prsence in that area as a show of strength, the only thing those men can do is follow orders & get on with the job.
 
#17
PartTimePongo said:
That said , what genius thought of siting the FOB in that location?
The person who was told he had to site his base next to the local population centre in order to win hearts and minds and be seen to win hearts and minds.

You can't 'protect' the innocent Afghan civilians if perched on some rocky outcrop several miles up a mountain.

I know, it doesn't make military sense, but this isn't war, is it?
 
#19
I'm of a mind that is one of the Combat Outposts stationed deliberately to distrupt smugglers passageways, it's location near surrounding agencies that are just a stones throw away places it right in the path of just about all.

Here's some more stark contrast on the picture that has developed over the border. I note this because that bod was notably and understandably pissed off with that "goat herders" shoes. He was clearly taking the piss.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/02/al_qaedas_paramilita.php

Worth a read, it's not often you see an armoured brigade break off from initial contact and go into full retreat.
 
#20
whitecity said:
PartTimePongo said:
That said , what genius thought of siting the FOB in that location?
The person who was told he had to site his base next to the local population centre in order to win hearts and minds and be seen to win hearts and minds.

You can't 'protect' the innocent Afghan civilians if perched on some rocky outcrop several miles up a mountain.

I know, it doesn't make military sense, but this isn't war, is it?

Surely though the FOB's are some kind of bullet 'magnets', which the locals would rather be far away from?
 

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