using your PDR


after my last comment it came to me to ask if anyone had or is using their PDR and if they have any (real ) tips for completing them


War Hero
People who use them tell me that you have to keep it open a lot and document far more than you'd expect.  Its aparently difficult to remember a lot of stuff unless you do keep it up to date.

Mine is used to elevate the coffee machine so that the ADC can plug it into the mains!


thanks for that
so sod the serious ideas our coffee machine has been unplugged for ages but i will use my two PDR's  :D

New Q

I once used mine to show the rest of the troops that I could balance things on me Head ? does that get me a job  ;)


They make excellent Birthday/Christmas presents for young nephews who actually like the Army. Tell them that the files are used by the SAS for top secret thingies and the kids are made up.


War Hero
I can't work out how to use mine. I've heard it's easier if you take the plastic off, but frankly I'm not prepared to put that much work into it.
I put wheels on mine and a scoop at the front..... watch next series of robot wars where you will see Sir Killalot pick it up on his spike, trundle off to the pit only to drop it in disgust half-way there......


opened mine up
put all the bits in it
got all my certificates
came to a halt as i couldn't work out what else i was supposed to use it for
after 15 years i can't remember what i have done and when so it is not much use really
guess if i had been given it as a boy soldier and then kept it up to date it might be more useful than the book end that it currently is


1. Open PDR
2. Empty contents into bin
3. Fill with anything more useful like Pornography
;D ;D ;D


We first got them a few years ago, the CO was dead keen to get all the SNCO/Officers ideas so we had a full day on PDR for the whole regt. I recon that was the last time we ever saw them? I am out in three years time and I don't think a PDR is a bad thing at all. Just add to it as and when, you can allways strip it down in a year or two.


Used to keep my PDR pride of place in the Regimental Training Wing shelf, so that soldiers could see it as they walked in.
I had to remove it to make place for the brew kit that is set aside for special visitors.
I didnt throw it away though, I gave it back to the Chief Clerk, he has put it in the admin store, in the hope that the next Regimental clearout will claim it, the rest of the uneccesary stationary, and other personnel that he has to keep on his books. Will SDR new chapter sort this out?!?!


could always use it as a replacement for the body armour we never get issued :evil:


:?: I am still waiting to get given my PDR folder, don't get any help from where to get one from, and still get punished for not having one. Can anyone help me with this? My fingers are turning Brasso colour!


For some reason, my lads keep asking for a new PDR - even though they've already been issued with one in the last year. Me thinks something evil is afoot...
Who needs a PDR anyway? When I get out I'll just go to the job interview with my 108. That will succinctly sum up my whole raft of personal qualities, technical skills, people skills, logistics and personnel experience, management abilities and project work. All in about 12 words or however bloody long it is.

Er, yes, I'm being sarcastic 8O



PoisonDwarf said:
Who needs a PDR anyway? When I get out I'll just go to the job interview with my 108. That will succinctly sum up my whole raft of personal qualities, technical skills, people skills, logistics and personnel experience, management abilities and project work. All in about 12 words or however bloody long it is.

Er, yes, I'm being sarcastic 8O

Yes, quite. That's why it's in the individual's own best interest to both initially find out how to use their PDR, then subsequently keep it up to date.

If used correctly, by first-line managers (Pl/Tp Comds/Ldrs), and supported by the chain of command, then they can be very useful for all concerned. Ask your RAO dept for a copy of: Personal Development Record - The User Guide, AC 64210.

The following is an amended extract of a document I prepared last year, which may be relevant:



A. Personal Development Record - The User Guide, AC 64210.
B. MS Guide to Soldiers’ Confidential Reports.
C. JSP 505 - Joint Service Guide to Officers Appraisal Reporting.
D. The Investors In People standard,
E. Army Web Site - Personal Development Record section: (Note: RLI address. Internet addres is different.)

1. Introduction. Reference A states that PDRs are designed to:

a. Plan an individual's Army career.
b. Plan an individual's personal development and lifelong learning.
c. Keep a record of what was said during interviews.
d. Review perfomance before an individual is reported on.
e. Store important personal qualifications and certificates.
f. Allow an individual to start to make a really effective CV.

2. Existing Requirements. After initial briefings the integration of PDRs into Regt personnel management should not create any extra work. The PDR is simply a tool that supports the following existing G1 requirements:

a. MS. References B and C require that officers and soldiers participate in a Mid Period Appraisal Reviews in order to highlight potential problem areas on their appraisal reports, and to discuss their training and development requirements.

b. Investors in People. IIP in the military formalises existing management practices (albeit with additional documentary and evidentiary requirements). These are embodied in the Investors in People (IIP) standard, consisting of 12 Indicators, at Reference D. Indicators 1-4 on Commitment, and 8 & 9 on Action require that an organisation fully commits itself to developing its people, and that it does so effectively. The effective use of PDRs is one of the Lines of Operation that supports this.

3. PDRs - Key Issue Checklist. The following is extracted from Reference E, page 10.

- Is there an ongoing process in place to ensure that everyone has a PDR?
- Does everyone have a copy of the User Guide (Reference A)?
- Does everyone have a copy of the Special-To-Arm section applicable to their capbadge? (Reference E)
- Has everyone had a briefing?
- Are good PDR practices integrated in to Unit SOPs?
- Are junior commanders fully conversant with PDR usage?

4. Implementation of PDRs in a Regt. The following is proposed as a means of integrating PDRs in to a Regt. Responsibilities for each area are denoted by italics.

a. Ensure all soldiers have required material. Tp management and Sqn clerks: All soldiers should have a PDR, a User Guide, and the Special-To-Arm insert.

b One-off Trg & Development Period. Nominated junior officer: A morning spent, probably as part of a round robin package (see para 5 below), briefing two distinct groups of personnel - first, NCOs and soldiers, and second, those with reporting responsibilities - i.e. Pl/Tp Mngt and above. All personnel would need their PDRs with them for this.

c. Induction Briefings. Training Wing: Incorporate the NCOs and Soldiers briefing from the above paragraph as a standard part of a Regt induction package.

d. Impetus from Regt. Formulation of a CO’s directive, with reporting officers being directed to use PDRs i.a.w. Reference D.

e. Use of PDRs in all Career Interviews. Tp management. i.a.w. Reference D.

f. Monitoring of use. Regt Comd Gp.

5. Time Required. Only one trg period would be required to implement this, however depending on numbers, it may be best be incorporated in to a three-period round robin. There are at least two other training and development activities which would be suited for this, for example:

a. Tour of local AEC incl briefings on IT Trg and Language Trg.

b. Literacy and Numeracy Diagnostic Tests. (by AEC Basic Skills Tutors.)

6. Conclusion. Very few people use their PDRs as intended - rather than as cellophane-wrapped, expensive book stops. They are, however, potentially valuable management tools and their use merely reflects the formalisation of existing good management practices. The allocation of Regt training time, and the priority that would accordingly be afforded to it by all ranks in the Regt, means that its implementation at Regt level would be considerably more successful and effective than attempting to do so on a Sqn or Tp basis.


using mine now as a folder to keep my evidence in for my Engineering Council UK registration to EngTech level

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