Using the TA as a springboard for reg commission

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  1. Hi guys,

    I'm just trying to gauge your opinions on using the TA as a springboard for a reg commission.

    Do you think it's right to use this as a stepping stone into the regs, or would you say that it's not it's purpose, especially with the high commitments abroad that are now happening.

    I can just imagine that if you were successful at RCB and subsequently upsticks and left half way through your basics that you'll have wasted their time training you and they're not going to be entirely happy!! Also you're taught from scratch in the regs any way so is it of much worth?

    Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.

  2. Edit: fair comment. :(
  3. msr

    msr LE

    Do it, it can be done these days.

    Not only will you gain a valuable understanding of the TA, who will be serving alongside and possibly underneath you on ops in the future, but you will have a bit of a headstart on those with no military experience.

    It might also serve as a bit of a counter-balance to the monumental arrogance displayed by some (ex-)regular officers.

  4. Thanks Dread,

    Though just to clear any confusion I mean jacking halfway through TA recruits course to do the cc.
  5. Thanks Dread,

    Though just to clear any confusion I mean jacking halfway through TA recruits course to do the cc.
  6. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator


    It very much depends on your timeframe for the regular commission. Getting a commission in the TA seems to take longer than the half life of Chernobyl nowadays, so you may be as well to join the TA as a private soldier whilst waiting for your RMAS date.

    Benefits include basic training in all the essential stuff, scope for improved fitness etc. Potential down side to be aware of is the "In the TA we did it this way" comments at Sandhurst.

    Depending on your location etc I would suggest considering the TA infantry. This is not out of any particular bias, just a reflection that RMAS uses infantry skills as the setting/model for the command and leadership skills it develops. Therefore a thorough understanding of up to Company level tactics will probably be of more benefit than a good understanding of more specialised skills in the Corps.

    Do not worry about oweing time to the TA. The turnover is very rapid, and it will not be a problem if you want to go regular. Just remember to remain in contact to provide training support to your old TA unit once you are in command of your Pl/Troop!

  7. Most officers who reach the rank of major in the regs will have to have had one TA posting. If you can turn around to MCM Div and say that you in fact were in the TA then you will have that tick in the box. Admittedly you'll miss out on a posting in which you don't Mondays but that's life.
  8. cpunk

    cpunk LE Moderator

    Cobblers. There are nowhere near enough regular slots in the TA for this to be the case.

    Back to the original question: service in the TA will do you no harm at all and will, in many ways, be of some benefit. Anything that will broaden your experience of the Army before you get to RCB and/or RMAS is a good thing. But, as someone has pointed out, you need to be realistic about your timescale. How far down the route of applying for RMAS are you? If you are expecting to be there within 6 months to a year, you won't have the opportunity to do much more than the very basics and I would suggest joining as a private soldier and picking up what you can. If you were an 18 year old, beginning a gap year before a four year degree course, then I would say definitely have a go at getting a TA commission: it will be of great benefit to you in a variety of ways, not just militarily.
  9. Hi guys,

    to basically give you an idea, I'm a 23 year old working in the city at present, I originally contacted the AFCO last summer though had to put the brakes on for a number of reasons. Am now very much keen to get moving with it though obviously am concerned about the 'flash to bang' time between now and RMAS (subject to being successful!)
  10. Unfortunately it could go either way...A Cat 1 pass at the RCB Brief means that you can have a stab at the main board four weeks later. If you recieve a pass there is a chance that you can get yourself onto the next CC (be that Jan, May, Sep etc). But the likelyhood (as I have experienced it) is that if you are going to go through the full process, the AFCO will want you to go to at least 2 familiarisation visits prior to the brief / main board. I'm sure that there are ways of hurrying this up, but to be honest I think it would be folly to forfeit these visits.

    The most likely CoA is that the entire process will take up to a year to get from initial AFCO visit, to further interviews, to fam visits, to potential sponsorship interviews to the briefing, to further familiarisation visits, to sponsorship, to the main board....phew, I think you can see where I am going with this. If you then pass your Main board at Westbury (please stay at the redwood lodge with sandy- shes the best) I'm not sure what the CCs are like at the moment but I would guess that they are pretty full, giving you an extra few months wait...

    If this process is indeed going to take a year, I would definately advise joining your local infantry TA unit, just to immerse yourself in the military life prior to RCB and the CC. Not only will you gain some of the skills required on your CC, but you should have a bit of fun. Mind you as someone has said on this thread, (as I've heard also) its probably best to keep your mouth shut at the beginning of the 'hurst vis a vis what you have been tought on your weeknights and weekends...