Used 4x4

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  1. OK, here's the score.

    My wife is about to come into a little money. Not a lot, but she is giving me around 7 to 8 k to get a car with.

    I'm currently driving around in her company car, a CR-V and I want to get a used 4x4.

    My choices are slightly limited due to the fact that Mrs I is a bit of a snob and doesn't want to be seen in a chav mobile, so that cuts out most of the Jap stuff (Anything Mitubishi/Nissan/Jeep), so I've narrowed it down to a final 3.

    1. Land Rover Discovery
    2. Mercedes ML
    3. Lexus RX300 (although not diesel, see below for logic)

    First things first, It needs to be something of this sort of size.

    I've had Land Rovers in the past, including disco's and I'm well aware of their well deserved reputation. I think that I can get around a 2002 for each of them or there abouts for that money.

    Got to be Auto, Got to be diesel.

    So my questions to the floor are,
    1. Does anyone have any of these and what are they like?
    2. I'm aware that both the Disco and the ML have a reputation for faults, so would I be better going for the RX? My thinking is that although the RX is a 3.0 V6 and has low MPG, would I save more in the long run as I wouldn't be paying out for repairs every five minutes?
    3. Both the LR and the Merc have any number of independent garages that specialise in the marques. The Lexus not so (at least not that I have found so far - I'm in the Bath/Bristol area). I'm quite fond of getting someone who knows about the cars to look after them, but not so fond of main dealer prices. Anyone know much about Lexus servicing?
    4. Any other marques/models that I should consider? Off road ability is not the prime concern, I do tracks/greenlanes with my shooting but not hard core stuff, so really ground clearance is all that matters and all three meet that requirement.
  2. Disco every time

    for 7k you should be able to get a newer one than 2002...
  3. Disco - Or for that money or less you will get a MINT P38 Range Rover DHSE, full leather interior, the works. Use any saving for a private plate !

    My wife LOVES hers.
  4. I've seriously, seriously thought about a P38. My heart says yes, yes, yes. But frankly I'm terrified of the repair bills. Especially to the air suspension! That's why I'm looking at the others.
  5. yep, go for a td5 mate, my daughter has had 4 mercedes ML's but says the quality isn't as good as they used to be, she has bought herself a Range Rover sport and loves it. [ the posing cow] :)
  6. I have an automatic Disco 2 (2003) - automatic, full leather, (SE, I think - but its LHD)...

    Has had a few minor faults in its life but first class off-road and has served me well on the tarmac.
  7. Have a look at Jeep.
    For that sort of money you could pick up a tidy Grand Cherokee CRD Limited. (2004, 60k ish)
    2.7 Mercedes diesel (167hp) mated to a 5 speed Mercedes auto. Plenty of go, and sounds good. Quicker than equivalent RR or LR.
    Has every extra you could ever want (electric, heated, memory, leather seats, etc etc). my favourite is the sun visor mirror lights, which have a dimmer switch! why?

    Big service costs about £300. I got up to 34mpg on the motorway, but seemed to average about 28mpg all round.
    excellent off road, with the right tires it is peerless. On road it tackles autobahn/motorway really well, no need to turn up the excellent stereo with infinity speakers to counter the road noise, even at 90+. Does roll a bit on the corners, so you need to be smooth.

    Tough and reliable, make sure all the electrical stuff works. They are built at the Mercedes factory in Graz (Austria) so general build quality is good.

    Image wise it seems to cut the mustard amongst the others 4x4s on the shoot. Mainly as it is a proper 4x4 and not a hairdressing/footballers wives/drug dealer BMW x5

    Possibly one of the best all-round vehicles I have bought.
  8. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Does she have a Friend on FaceBook? Because I could be her friend. Terms and conditions apply.
  9. sorry, but Landcruiser every time...
  10. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Hi. Hows tricks?

    I have never heard of your Lincruiser, so I have a question?

    Does it have an automatic gearbox? That can be operated by girls and Estate Agents?
  11. I think they can be operated by the aformentioned, rather like other Chelsea Tractors eg Discovery.
  12. ML - Build quality poor , by the latest you can get as it did/has got better

    Disco 3 is v good with the v6 diesel - lots of rubber bushes in the suspension that wear though

    P38 -Only if you an afford to spend at least what you paid for it on repairs , and the BMW 6 cyl diesel is gutless and sounds like its working hard all the time , chipping makes it better.

    Landcruiser - Bomb proof quality , later D4D engines are better but 3L TD is no snail - watch out for any signs of running hot though as heads can crack on the 3L.

    Lexus - complicated, but very reliable but thirsty.

    Disco with TD5 - not the best or most reliable but.... there is a huge choice , parts are easy to get , loads of cheap specalist garages instead of main stealers ,

    Latest type Shogun - reliable , bland , boring but drives nicely, is econnomic , and well built.

    I have a Landcruiser 80 , 3 diff locks , 4.2 L 24v diesel engine , OME suspension , it will cross any desert , but is huge , drives like a truck , and even as one of the last made is over 12 years old.
  13. Thought they were still available, made outside Japan? I drove one with only 5000Kms in KAF last year.
  14. TheIronDuke

    TheIronDuke LE Book Reviewer

    Can we have a Sh*ds & Defenders thread?
  15. BiscuitsAB

    BiscuitsAB LE Moderator

    Right you lot

    I have been pondering for a period of time the purchase of a Toybota Hisurf also called a forerunner.

    anyone got one or an opinion? ( fcuking silly question this is ARRSE we've all got an opinion)