USAF Crash Afghanistan 27/01/20

Ritch

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There's been reports of a aircraft crashing in a Taliban controlled area of Afghanistan today. Originally the Government claimed it was a plane belonging to Afghanistan's airline but they have denied it and all their aircraft are accounted for.


Video has started circulating of what looks like a USAF E-11 Battlefield Airborne Communications Node on the ground out there. There are only four of this type of aircraft and all four are stationed at Kandahar.

 

Ritch

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My moneys on fake news from yer man Tariq
If you look at the video, the aircraft has a USAF star decal on the engine. The engines are in the right place - everything fits and points to a USAF E-11.
 

napier

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Looks pretty similar
 

napier

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It’s a well set up fake if it is.

That wreckage does look very much like the online images of that particular aircraft. And there aren’t too many of them around.

Edit: I see what you mean now.
 
Do the Quds have shoulder fired AA missiles ?
The US support to civilian EOD projects world wide is often appended by a significant effort to destroy MANPADS. Including those held in inventories by various nations, Even though there’s no international treaty against owning them.

It’s one of the world’s worst-kept secrets that contributing to this effort will be their concern a future revelation that an aircraft will be shot down by a Stinger that they once provided to the Muj.
 
Bugger.
Hope there were survivors.
If it's a SAM, then life could get very interesting for manned a/c.
 

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KABUL: The US military said Monday that it is investigating reports of an airplane crash in Taliban-controlled territory in Afghanistan.
US Army Maj. Beth Riordan, a spokeswoman for US Central Command, said that it remained unclear whose aircraft was involved in the crash.Riordan declined to immediately comment further.

However, pictures on social media purportedly from the crash site showed what could be the remains of a Bombardier E-11A aircraft, which the US military uses for electronic surveillance over Afghanistan.

Local Afghan officials had said earlier on Monday that a passenger place from Afghanistan's Ariana Airlines had crashed in the Taliban-held area of the eastern Ghazni province. However, Ariana Airlines told The Associated Press that none of its planes had crashed in Afghanistan.

The conflicting accounts could not immediately be reconciled. The number of people on board and their fate was not immediately known, nor was the cause of the crash.

Arif Noori, spokesman for the provincial governor, said the plane went down around 1:10 pm local time (8:40 am GMT) in Deh Yak district, some 130 kilometers (80 miles) southwest of the capital Kabul. He said the crash site is in territory controlled by the Taliban. Two provincial council members also confirmed the crash.

But the acting director for Ariana Airlines, Mirwais Mirzakwal, dismissed reports that one the company's aircraft had crashed. The state-owned airline also released a statement on its website saying all its aircraft were operational and safe.

The mountainous Ghazni province sits in the foothills of the Hindu Kush mountains and is bitterly cold in winter. The Taliban currently control or hold sway over around half the country.
The last major commercial air crash in Afghanistan occurred in 2005, when a Kam Air flight from the western city of Herat to Kabul crashed into the mountains as it tried to land in snowy weather
 
Bugger.
Hope there were survivors.
If it's a SAM, then life could get very interesting for manned a/c.
Back to the days of the dreaded (mythical) Taliban on oxygen on a mountaintop , with a Stinger! Hopefully a faked report.
 
The top of the aircraft seems to be more severely damaged than the bottom. To the point where it has vanished.

Demolition possibly? Maybe hit by a missile after it crashed to safeguard the secret squirrel stuff.
 
AlJaz currently reporting that Afghan ground forces are on scene and report no survivors: a further comment is that the pilot and co-pilot can be recognised as 'not Afghan nationals'.

Bugger.


Bob: as an aside, I was long under the impression that any Stingers that may have been cached will be long past their 'Best Before' date, if only because of swapping out the individual power packs, the original batteries having degraded past the point of no return?

The US support to civilian EOD projects world wide is often appended by a significant effort to destroy MANPADS. Including those held in inventories by various nations, Even though there’s no international treaty against owning them.

It’s one of the world’s worst-kept secrets that contributing to this effort will be their concern a future revelation that an aircraft will be shot down by a Stinger that they once provided to the Muj.
 
The top of the aircraft seems to be more severely damaged than the bottom. To the point where it has vanished.

Demolition possibly? Maybe hit by a missile after it crashed to safeguard the secret squirrel stuff.
Burnt out, not unusual.
 
The US support to civilian EOD projects world wide is often appended by a significant effort to destroy MANPADS. Including those held in inventories by various nations, Even though there’s no international treaty against owning them.

It’s one of the world’s worst-kept secrets that contributing to this effort will be their concern a future revelation that an aircraft will be shot down by a Stinger that they once provided to the Muj.
Thanks - that does ring a bell.
Do Stingers have a realistic shelf life.
Specialist batteries ? Cant see them running on a couple of AA's.
 
Normal crew of 2+2 apparently but sometimes just 2.
 
Thanks - that does ring a bell.
Do Stingers have a realistic shelf life.
Specialist batteries ? Cant see them running on a couple of AA's.
When we first went in on herrick, it was thought that it might be an issue. However, I remember reading a statement that the batteries were specialist ( and a controlled item ) and they would be unlikely to function properly after the last ones were supplied X years ago.
 
Do the Quds have shoulder fired AA missiles ?
They did, then most of them were bought by fingers and Pat (true dit) in the early 2000‘s. Quite possibly they’ve acquired more.
 

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