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It is strongly alleged that duty trucks were simply nicked, backed up to armouries, and QM's and gear was thrown in wholesale - cases of weapons and ammo just vanished, including RPG's, grenades and mines.
Why have I suddenly got that scene from Lord of War stuck in my head; the one where Yuri goes to visit his uncle the General back in Ukraine...??!!
 
Why have I suddenly got that scene from Lord of War stuck in my head; the one where Yuri goes to visit his uncle the General back in Ukraine...??!!

Its probably about right.

The country just effectively did not exist anymore and all official employees were unemployed. Factories and the like were a bit different, especially if they had western contracts. Others like Zeiss, the optics people, who had former parent concerns in the west were just simply re-incorporated back into the western parent company.

My lot, on my mothers side, came from what became the DDR, over in Rostock. Up until the Russians arrived when they ran away to the west, they owned a hotel, couple of shops and the family farm. When the wall came down the old dear and her sisters went to visit relatives that had been caught behind the wall and to look at the old farm. They found that their large imperialist capitalist farm had been split into smaller farms. They had intended to see if they could get the old family property back, but once they met the present resident farmers they decided not to bother. Some of the parents and grandparents of the present farmers had worked for the family up to the end of WW2. The farmers arranged a big party for the old dear and her sisters to say thank you for not taking any action on trying to get the farm back.

You've got to remember that they had next to nothing in the east and when it fell apart they thought that they would have less than nothing initially. West Germany did a mega job of incorporating it.
 
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I've read anecdotes (so likely to be BS) that if you were stationed in Berlin or at/near anywhere where it was possible to come near any Soviet forces at the time of the collapse and you fancied a souvenir (genuine) enamel red star cap badge or even the ushanka it was pinned to you just handed over a packet of western smokes and took it off the squaddyskis head. If you fancied a souvenir AK then you dug out a few notes and took your chances getting it back home. If you wanted a whole tank, though - well; I didn't realise that that was on the cards, too!

Now I think about it I've heard jokes about it being easy to buy your own armoured brigade and, as with all these things, they're born out of at least a little bit of truth so... Fuggit; I've given up wondering these days. It's a mad, mad, mad world. Some old boy with a big white beard and a suspiciously British-looking greatcoat tried to flog us an RPG tube whilst we were loading up the agent's minibus to go to the airport in Aden back in the early noughties. Fifty US, I think he wanted for it.

I am halfway through this Operation Odessa (2018) - IMDb

- Seems in the 90s they 'bought' a Foxtrot class Diesel Electric sub and some KA 27 'Helix'. If you believe them, they were offered a nuke as well.
 
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If someone was buying a Foxtrot, they need their head looking at.

Uncle Vlad will sell you a Kilo or two if you have the money and are not too pro Western, Alternatively Uncle Xi will see you a Yuran - same conditions apply. Lastly, Kim Wrong Un will sell you a dangerous midget if you give him cash - and a deep fried pizza.
 
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Bear in mind I am half boxhead with police and military mates over there and my hobby is shooting. It got to the stage in the last days of the DDR when no one was being paid and people could not imagine where their next pay day would come from. Anything that was not bolted down grew legs and walked. It is strongly alleged that duty trucks were simply nicked, backed up to armouries, and QM's and gear was thrown in wholesale - cases of weapons and ammo just vanished, including RPG's, grenades and mines. This perturbed my police mates and much time was spent hunting stuff down.

Including suitcase sized nukes allegedly
 

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Why have I suddenly got that scene from Lord of War stuck in my head; the one where Yuri goes to visit his uncle the General back in Ukraine...??!!

That scene where he walks into the armoury and it was racked out with AK's - those were all real as they were cheaper to buy than prop guns!
 
The Hind seems to have been a pretty potent chopper.

Back to choppers, apologies for the digression above.

The crew basically sat in titanium bathtubs and looked through bulletproof glass. There were complaints that it was sluggish, possibly down to the fuel it used as there were reports that it accelerated like a bad diesel with clouds of black smoke belching out. It also flew a little crab like sideways at low speeds, also reports that it could not come to a full stop hover and had to maintain momentum - possibly die to its weight.

One weakness that was quickly fixed in Afghanistan was the exhaust port that was more or less flush to the body. When the Muj got stingers this failing allowed stingers to fly straight into the workings. Later models had an extended exhaust port to move the heat signature away from the body a tad.

Never flew in one, but I used to be on the team that produced these for 4 years, for those who remember:

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Including suitcase sized nukes allegedly

One of the SEAL Team 6 books makes mention of the fact that in the SF universe they were the ones tasked with finding [and neutralising] hardware, and software (people) of a nuclear nature. They did so successfully according to the book. Can't remember the book title, it was just a couple, or three, sentences that might have seemed unimportant (or even important) to a censor reading the manuscript and been allowed to slip through.
 

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The crew basically sat in titanium bathtubs and looked through bulletproof glass. There were complaints that it was sluggish, possibly down to the fuel it used as there were reports that it accelerated like a bad diesel with clouds of black smoke belching out. It also flew a little crab like sideways at low speeds, also reports that it could not come to a full stop hover and had to maintain momentum - possibly die to its weight.
If we're talking Hind some of this may have been down to rotary pilots not being trained in/expecting fixed-wing flight characteristics or effects attendant to. Apparently, the winglets for the ordnance pylons are full aerofoils and generate lift in forward flight. And all sorts of crap if you aren't expecting it when translating from forward flight to the hover (flaring, basically). Ditto if you throw it into a hard turn having flown "conventional" rotary and never having flown fixed-wing.

There's plenty of footage on the 'net to show what a competent, experienced Hind jockey can get the thing to do. There's one on YouTube of some mercenary mob in Africa in recent times using one to escort aid missions flying supplies in to iffy parts of the Congo in Mi-17s (export Mi-8s). They've not only got the heli's standard armament but also a DShK in each door.

There's a movie about Vlad's move into Georgia when they were cosying up a bit too close to the EU where, in the opening scene the main characters are doing embedded journalism and it all goes a bit iffy. Someone gets wounded and the medivac is a Hind. Comes in, does CAS, lands, does the CASEVAC, lifts off and away. Dunno how reality-based the sequence is but it does seem a mean premise: send in a Chinook or Puma with an MG in the door or send in an airborne artillery platform with a bit of room for a few stretchers in the back. Admittedly, a Chinook has room for the med' team as well, I'll grant you, but if it's a bit tight; well...
 
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I've seen doco's about them building their own versions of X-craft to run drugs up the coast into US waters...

Pablos lot were having sub surface skimmers built in the jungles of Colombia.

With the passing of El Chapo into captivity another has emeerged as the top dog, El Mencho. He has recently come to the fore after quietly remaining under the radar for a fair few years. He supposedly recruited some Russian naval architects to design and build subs for him to have his Meth run up to the US. There are also reports of cartel subs being spotted and caught off Spain.
 

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You've got to remember that they had next to nothing in the east and when it fell apart they thought that they would have less than nothing initially. West Germany did a mega job of incorporating it.
Given what I was brought up on and the era in which I was brought up on it, when I went over to the former East to do a Nordstream inspection I was quite surprised to find that the place was in colour!!
 

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Pablos lot were having sub surface skimmers built in the jungles of Colombia.

With the passing of El Chapo into captivity another has emeerged as the top dog, El Mencho. He has recently come to the fore after quietly remaining under the radar for a fair few years. He supposedly recruited some Russian naval architects to design and build subs for him to have his Meth run up to the US. There are also reports of cartel subs being spotted and caught off Spain.
They'll be nicking an idea from Desmond Bagley's "The Spoilers" and having the drugs run up the beach by torpedo from outside the 12nm limit next...
 

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Indeed. A charlatan found dead in a lock-up in Belgium, if I recall. That being said, if you can retain the notion that his book is fiction and read it as such it's a really rather good story.

By the by, I was riding in a taxi in Abu Dhabi in the late noughties, going from the city out to the compound in the industrial zone at Musaffah and my driver was a Pakistani with the usual disregard for what we'd call driving standards. It was a journey accompanied mostly by that "ding ding ding" thing they make you have that goes off when you exceed the motorway limit. Anyway, he throws it a bit too enthusiastically into a roundabout and I glibly quip, "Bloody hell, man! Did you learn to drive in warzone?!!"

He only says, "Yeah, man!! I learned to dodge the Russians and their big bad helicopter!!"

A bit of probing and he'd earned a living before emigrating running the Muj' up to the border and sometimes just over it from the refugee camps in Pakistan. I thought he was taking the piss when he said that sometimes he'd take British and American "secret soldiers" up, too. "Yeah, right - you've read that book but not the newspapers, ain'tcha." And then, when I came home, I hit up the internet for a bit of digging and, no, apparently we really were putting people in to train the Muj' up in Pakistan and go over the border with them. Mr. McNab himself claims to have done just that. Seems Mr. Driver's dits about running a speeding Toyota Hi-Lux down a pass being pursued by a Hind might have something to them.

Or he could just have been another shit driver, just with a better excuse than the others.
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Another BS book...?

I think I might have filled some extended weather downtime at work reading that, having found it in the ship's library (probably one of the few books there not in Norwegian). Does it go heavy on apparent British involvement in Columbia and imply the author was McNab's boss, or something...?

Oh, and maybe slags off the author known as "Chris Ryan" for being a clumpweight on a job when he was clearly suffering a PTSD-like episode from his experiences in Iraq, or something, I vaguely recall...?
 
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Another BS book...?

I think I might have filled some extended weather downtime at work reading that, having found it in the ship's library (probably one of the few books there not in Norwegian). Does it go heavy on apparent British involvement in Columbia and imply the author was McNab's boss, or something...?
McNab name-checks him as his senior in one of his own books.
 
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