USA to remove 9,500 troops from Germany

and buying Russian gas only reinforces that distrust.
Buy gas (real gas that is) from the US?
Buying from the Russians not only make us dependant on them, but also the Russians become dependant on us, until such time as energy from renewable resources takes over, and that is the way things are going.
The current inhabitant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is merely p1ssed off because we want to determine what we buy, when and where.
 
Buy gas (real gas that is) from the US?
Buying from the Russians not only make us dependant on them, but also the Russians become dependant on us, until such time as energy from renewable resources takes over, and that is the way things are going.
The current inhabitant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is merely p1ssed off because we want to determine what we buy, when and where.
Jesus Christ - Do you really believe the bollocks you spout? ‘Buying Russian gas is actually good as it makes them dependent on us and It’s all because Trump is a meanie‘?

Your IQ is lower than your age.
 
Jesus Christ - Do you really believe the bollocks you spout? ‘Buying Russian gas is actually good as it makes them dependent on us and It’s all because Trump is a meanie‘?

Your IQ is lower than your age.
Don't tell me that, tell the German Federal Gov't, because that's what they're saying, along with some very smart people who have probably forgotten more about energy than you or I have ever learned.
No I don't believe everything I hear, certainly not from politicians who obviously have an axe to grind. But there are people here who do understand the matter and what they say seems plausible.
Trump bashing is something of a national sport here, while I'm not overly fond of him I don't join in the bashing sessions, they've gone from justifiable criticism to just plain mindless.
As for my IQ. rest assured it's around 115, considerably more than my age.
Your reply however does not do justice to the standard which you have previously set.
 
Buy gas (real gas that is) from the US?
Buying from the Russians not only make us dependant on them, but also the Russians become dependant on us, until such time as energy from renewable resources takes over, and that is the way things are going.
The current inhabitant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is merely p1ssed off because we want to determine what we buy, when and where.
The Russians also use that hard currency to modernize their military. Which train to kill our forces defending countries that don’t want to fully commit to that task themselves. So perhaps take that into consideration.
 
NATO is a huge vector of US influence, a machinery designed to impose US norms and systems. The Americans will not desert it in a hurry.
Unlike deGaulle...

EDIT Oh look QRK2 is upset poor dear
 
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Unlike deGaulle...
... who withdrew France from the integrated military command structure in 1966, having hosted the NATO HQ in Paris since the Alliance's formation in 1949. French troops remained committed to NATO, though not TOA'd to NATO. In 2009, France reversed this position. That was 11 years ago: get over it.
 
... who withdrew France from the integrated military command structure in 1966, having hosted the NATO HQ in Paris since the Alliance's formation in 1949. French troops remained committed to NATO, though not TOA'd to NATO. In 2009, France reversed this position. That was 11 years ago: get over it.
MEOW! nice kitty They still ran from the alliance depending on US fighting FOR them as a buffer
 
The orange idiot just wants his legions home as Emperor Trumpicus has visions of ruling the USA by Emperial diktat from the barrel of Federal troops guns.
 
MEOW! nice kitty They still ran from the alliance depending on US fighting FOR them as a buffer
And yet, the last French unit only left the former West Germany in 2014.

 
The orange idiot just wants his legions home as Emperor Trumpicus has visions of ruling the USA by Emperial diktat from the barrel of Federal troops guns.
No he doesn't no matter how much you may think so. Also the US military is not a banana republic military, they are not going to allow any POTUS to become dictator
 
And yet, the last French unit only left the former West Germany in 2014.

And yet they still ran from NATO, because deGaulle had a pissy fit about France not being a senior partner and being deferred to
 
Out in the open now; effectively punitive sanctions on another Alliance member. Vlad must be pissing himself laughing as Der Hair Fuhrer and Sultan Erdogan dismantle 'the world's most successful military alliance' from the inside.

'President Donald Trump says he’s reducing the number of U.S. troops in Germany because the country doesn’t spend enough on defense and supports a pipeline project with Russia.

'Trump spoke Saturday in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in the first political rally he’s held since the coronavirus pandemic swept across the U.S. “We’re supposed to protect Germany from Russia, but Germany is paying Russia billions of dollars for energy coming from a pipeline, brand new pipeline,” Trump said. “Excuse me, how does that work?” The U.S. has pressured Germany to abandon the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which is owned by Russia’s Gazprom PJSC, but has conceded it likely won’t be able to block it. The company is pressing ahead with construction.


'In targeting Germany, Trump cast his troop cut not as an improvement for U.S. national security but as economic punishment for Germany. He stressed that the German economy benefits from spending by the U.S. troops based there. The Pentagon also has thousands of civilian employees in Germany.

'This is the kind of antagonism toward allies that bothered Trump’s first defense secretary, Jim Mattis, so much that he quit. At the time of his resignation in December 2018, Mattis was upset by Trump’s sudden decision — later amended — to remove all American troops from Syria, abandoning their Kurdish partners. But that was only the latest instance of what Mattis saw as Trump’s disrespect for allies.

'Trump more recently has created a rift with South Korea over sharing the cost of hosting the approximately 28,000 troops based there. Last year, the administration stunned Seoul by demanding a five-fold increase in South Korea’s share of the cost, to $5 billion, and the two sides remain at loggerheads.

'In his book Bolton quotes Trump as telling aides that if Seoul refused to pay the $5 billion, “Let’s get out.”


 
Standby for the weekend Twitter storm from the Hair Fuhrer about the 'deep state' not aligning with his whims.

'The House Armed Services Committee delivered a near-unanimous bipartisan rebuke to President Donald Trump’s plans to pull about 10,000 U.S. troops from Germany.

'During its markup of the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act Wednesday, the panel voted 49-7 to approve a measure that bars the administration from lowering troop levels below current levels. It was backed by HASC’s chairman, Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash., its top Republican, Rep. Mac Thornberry, of Texas, and other lawmakers who said the move was poorly planned and undermines the NATO alliance.

“Part of what our military does is build those alliances and makes sure we don’t have to actually use the military. All of those things should be thought about before we announce we’re going to yank 10,000 troops out of Germany,” Smith said. “By the way, the president has not yet been clear on what he’s doing.”

'The amendment bans the administration from lowering troop levels below current levels until 180 days after Pentagon leaders present a plan to Congress and certify it will not harm U.S. or allied interests. There are currently about 34,500 U.S. troops stationed in Germany.'


 
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