USA to remove 9,500 troops from Germany

Helm

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Its own thread keeps it away from you guys circle jerk
As it's in CA perhaps you'd like to make a relevant comment? It's IMO yet more posturing and huffing, if he does pull them out and back to the USA he's given a kick in the teeth to NATO, which may well have been his intent as he doesn't like/understand NATO and what it does. If he puts them into Poland all he's done is disrupt a lot of people to no actual effect.
 

Auld-Yin

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It's not as if Britain has maintained a large presence in Germany. If we can pull out, why not the Septics?
 

Helm

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It's not as if Britain has maintained a large presence in Germany. If we can pull out, why not the Septics?
No reason at all, ours however was a long announced steady pull out, this has knee jerk written all over it.
 

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Read the story - he wants to pressurise Merkel.

Seems to think Germany is keen to keep America engaged. It was true once , not sure it remains true today.
 
El Presidente throwing another temper tantrum.
 

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Or financial reality in a post COVID environment.
Not seeing how this makes any financial difference they will all still be paid, the only way it will be a financial gain is to the local economy if they go back to the states. Which will take some balancing against the cost of the move.
 
Not seeing how this makes any financial difference they will all still be paid, the only way it will be a financial gain is to the local economy if they go back to the states. Which will take some balancing against the cost of the move.
But the money those troops spend will remain in the American economy and not in the German economy. Which is politically popular. BO pulled out two armored brigades, and the US presence will continue to decline. It is almost as if we are planning for a long term break from Germany, when Merkel calls it.
 
It's not as if Britain has maintained a large presence in Germany. If we can pull out, why not the Septics?
I think we kept a token number back in Germany, IIRC. Ayrshire Barracks was retained if I'm not mistaken.

We've got troops in the Baltic states now, and maybe this retention is in support of that.
 

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Does anyone feel the irony of Germany's position?

They are now in the same place as Poland was in 1938/39 requiring other countries like Britain, France and the USA to guarantee their sovereignty!
 
The optics of this are not good. A win to Putin. No one else benefits from this withdrawal.

Remember the saying (and I can't recall to whom it is attributed):

The purpose of NATO is to keep the Russians out, keep the Americans in and keep the Germans down.
 
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