USA and their Medals.

#1
Found an interesting, yet quite worrying article, of how the US are giving bravery medals out for the fun of it. Some soldiers probably deserve them, but 13,000 Bronze Star Medals? I mean, come on...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4243092/

Any views on the topic?

Peter
 
#2
The Bronze Star is not awarded solely for bravery, but also for meritorious service. A Bronze Star for bravery is denoted by a brass 'V' on the ribbon. The rules for the award of the BSM changed some time ago.

The article is correct though. Each service has its own criteria for awards, the Marines having the most difficult standards. What is significant is that it is now possible to win a DFC for flying a Predator...so I can understand why the old and bold are getting the hump.
 
#5
Perevodchik said:
it is now possible to win a DFC for flying a Predator...so I can understand why the old and bold are getting the hump.

You are shitting me???

What danger or bravery can be demonstrated sat in an ISO container hundreds of miles away from anything even remotely dodgy or harmful??

The bravest decision that the operator has to make is 'decaf or latte'. Unbefuckingleivable.
 
#8
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
leveller said:
IIRC the Congressional Medal of Honour is more rarely given out than the VC?
Not so.

VC Total awarded 1,356
CMoH Total awarded 3,463
Do numbers count though, given the vast disparity in population and army sizes between us and the US? Would percentage given out be a more accurate way of showing which is rarer?
 
#9
duckiciao said:
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
leveller said:
IIRC the Congressional Medal of Honour is more rarely given out than the VC?
Not so.

VC Total awarded 1,356
CMoH Total awarded 3,463
Do numbers count though, given the vast disparity in population and army sizes between us and the US? Would percentage given out be a more accurate way of showing which is rarer?

Your just as dead regardless how big your army is!

You could go into finite amounts of comparisons offsetting campaigns, time spent earing award etc, etc. I'm not sure it really matters too much. Both awards are the highest military decoration of each country and are justly awarded for utter bravery and no amounts of being a tad barking mad.
 
#10
duckiciao said:
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
leveller said:
IIRC the Congressional Medal of Honour is more rarely given out than the VC?
Not so.

VC Total awarded 1,356
CMoH Total awarded 3,463
Do numbers count though, given the vast disparity in population and army sizes between us and the US? Would percentage given out be a more accurate way of showing which is rarer?
I admit to not knowing the actual totals when posting, and yes it is more common maybe than the VC, but given the size of the US forces, it seems there are fewer % awards given out.

But then there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Either way recipients of both medals must command the highest respect.
 
#15
leveller said:
duckiciao said:
The-Lord-Flasheart said:
leveller said:
IIRC the Congressional Medal of Honour is more rarely given out than the VC?
Not so.

VC Total awarded 1,356
CMoH Total awarded 3,463
Do numbers count though, given the vast disparity in population and army sizes between us and the US? Would percentage given out be a more accurate way of showing which is rarer?
I admit to not knowing the actual totals when posting, and yes it is more common maybe than the VC, but given the size of the US forces, it seems there are fewer % awards given out.

But then there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Either way recipients of both medals must command the highest respect.
I recall as a young private walking through the halls at the Armor Center at Ft Knox where they had plaques of all CMoH, every single one, save one or two, was "posthumous" and there were literally hundreds of plaques.


Bronze star and bronze star with valor are two totally different medals. I often equated Bronze star in wartime to ARCOM in peacetime.
 
#16
To be honest they probably deserve to get loads of medals. If you made me do 15 month tours with less than a year in between then a couple of medals wouldn't go amiss.
 
#17
I presume the no of VCs has been since the Crimean war. Given that the number of colonial wars we've fought since then and the fact that the Spams turn up late for every world war, I think we've had more man days at war.
 
#19
blobmeister said:
The said mentioned person in my previous statement did a 6 month tour to get those 5 possibly 6 medals.

Hmm, I don't know about you guys but Medals in the US aren't awarded by time and/or rank, but by actions.

What about this guy? 27 months service and 40 medals :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audie_Murphy
 
#20
The person i am discussing did a box standard tour of 6 months, the persons country and unit awarded 5 medals, these were not for valour. We also have exchange officers permantly in my unit who rotate every 2 yrs, they two are enbarrassed by the nature that they receive awards.
 

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