US to Provide Lethal aid to Syrian Rebels

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I am going to guess that the US won't be sending light arms and ammunition to a region awash with light arms and ammunition, where the beneficiary are in desperate need of heavy arms and ammunition. Would it also be wise to guess that some of those who will be supplied will have had previous experience of war, fighting against US troops in Iraq?

If this is the case it would seem that the US government has learned nothing about the dangers of supplying weapons to Islamic fighters and how they can turn round and bite you in the ass.

Maybe it is time for the Western Powers to disengage.
 
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I am going to guess that the US won't be sending light arms and ammunition to a region awash with light arms and ammunition, where the beneficiary are in desperate need of heavy arms and ammunition. Would it also be wise to guess that some of those who will be supplied will have had previous experience of war, fighting against US troops in Iraq?

If this is the case it would seem that the US government has learned nothing about the dangers of supplying weapons to Islamic fighters and how they can turn round and bite you in the ass.

Maybe it is time for the Western Powers to disengage.
Well said!
 
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Bearing in mind how they fucked up the 'Mexican AK47' attempt, if they were serious about it, why not keep quiet, make deniable purchases of non-attributable wpns on the open market and supply them covertly? Bread-and-butter stuff for the CIA, surely? It's still a stupid idea though - how much did they spend on trying to retrieve all those Stingers and Blowpipes?
 
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Bearing in mind how they fucked up the 'Mexican M-16' attempt, if they were serious about it, why not keep quiet, make deniable purchases of non-attributable wpns on the open market and supply them covertly? Bread-and-butter stuff for the CIA, surely? It's still a stupid idea though - how much did they spend on trying to retrieve all those Stingers and Blowpipes?
They were Ak47s but your point is spot on.


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#9
It's not like there are good guys and bad guys in Syria, all are bad. Best thing would be to sit back and let them kill each other off.
 
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Why is Saudi Arabia not assisting? If it is as claimed a Sunni/Alawite/Shia dispute then surely the countries in the region whose population is made up of these groups should be the ones to take action either directly or indirectly or is this just a form of US appeasement in order to keep the threat of Islamic extremism happy at every opportunity, while this administration is in power?
 
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Why is Saudi Arabia not assisting? If it is as claimed a Sunni/Alawite/Shia dispute then surely the countries in the region whose population is made up of these groups should be the ones to take action either directly or indirectly or is this just a form of US appeasement in order to keep the threat of Islamic extremism happy at every opportunity, while this administration is in power?
You called it!
 
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Why is Saudi Arabia not assisting? If it is as claimed a Sunni/Alawite/Shia dispute then surely the countries in the region whose population is made up of these groups should be the ones to take action either directly or indirectly or is this just a form of US appeasement in order to keep the threat of Islamic extremism happy at every opportunity, while this administration is in power?
Appeasement? Surely not by our current administration (see I didn't use "Masters" out of deference to some of my critics who find my use of the term irritating in spite of its accuracy).


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#13
It's OK folks, apparently Tony Blair has announced that the Syrians are DEFFO using WMD, so it's all right to go in and sort them out. The Americans are 'certain' that there's a risk of said, Blair-certified WMD, getting into the hands of terrorists, or 'turruss' to use the proper term.

It's like one of those episodes of Star Trek where they're caught in a temporal loop.
 
#14
Why is Saudi Arabia not assisting?
It is. SA and Qatar have been funnelling Croatian weapons to JAN for the past few months. The US involvement, such as it is, is to shore up the supposed secularist FSA elements to prevent a JAN takeover of the north and east. The FSA and JAN are already squaring up against each other; this is probably too little too late.

Edit: to put this another way, this is the US trying to outflank their supposed Gulf allies, or at least, put the least worst elements in a position to hold their ground. The whole thing's a ******* mess.
 
#15
I can't believe the US's stupidity (well I can actually). How is it they cannot learn from past f•ck ups like this, but in this case it's so obvious. They may as well be giving the weapons straight to al Qaeda as well.
Let the syrian sort their own sh•t out. Interfering is just going to end in tears.
 
#16
Interfering is just going to end in tears.
Whatever happens, whatever we do, whoever wins, it'll end in tears. For them and for us. There is no good outcome from Syria.
 
#17
I can't believe the US's stupidity (well I can actually). How is it they cannot learn from past f•ck ups like this, but in this case it's so obvious. They may as well be giving the weapons straight to al Qaeda as well.
Let the syrian sort their own sh•t out. Interfering is just going to end in tears.
What you said!!! Let's just hope we don't have another ambassador and 3 other good men murdered as they try to get the Stingers etc. back from the rebels after the dust settles like occurred in Benghazi.


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#18
Syria has some neighbours on their border who, if suitably upset , have the ability to launch the entire middle east into a colossal gang **** of medieval proportions .....

One slightly ruthless Dictator in charge or various Al-Qaeda style Islamic groups ......

I'll stick with the dictator thanks.
 
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I can't remember if I've posted this before, but watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3wE0VWLgQnA

(It's really well edited, btw, by the standards of jihadist videos.)

Listen to how English he sounds, and see how many SA-16s they have... the jihadists are already tooled up, thanks to Saudi and Qatar. The current western debate is about arming the relative secularists to a) gain more influence through effectively fighting Assad and b) fight the jihadists, stage 2 of Syria's horrible war.
 
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try to get the Stingers etc. back from the rebels after the dust settles like occurred in Benghazi.


Stop saying that! Wallahi, we never gave the Libyan rebels MANPADS. They had enough of their own (and the first evidence of them showing up in Gaza occurred lastweek.)
 

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