US-Style Jet For Premier

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From Sky News

US-Style Jet For Premier
Updated: 08:06, Sunday November 20, 2005

Downing Street is said to be considering plans for a Prime Ministerial jet.

Already dubbed 'Blair Force One', the long-haul jumbo would be similar to that used by President Bush.

But Tony Blair will miss the launch as funding will not be available until 2008.

The Royal Flight fleet, which ferries the Royal Family and ministers around the globe, is ageing badly

Sir Peter Gershon, the Government's efficiency adviser, has been asked to examine the most economical means of updating it.

Sir Peter will recommend a 747 jumbo, a smaller short-haul plane and a helicopter, according to Sunday newspaper reports.

Downing Street stressed the report had yet to be delivered. "We are not going to pre-empt that," a No 10 spokeswoman said.

Sir Peter has apparently told Chancellor Gordon Brown the scheme would need a big initial outlay but will pay for itself in the long term.
I have no idea about the truthfulness of this statement, but whilst I'm not so anti-Blair / anti-New Labour that I expect our Prime Minister and Ministers of State to travel by EasyJet, if these planes are to be for the sole use of the PM, on the face of it this does appear to be another attempt to make the office of the Prime Minister appear more presidential.
 
#2
I have read that the jet will not be delivered until 2008 at the earliest...hopefully too late for the lying war criminal who currently occupies No 10.

By the way, the Bliars are off to a certain Egyptian Red Sea resort for their Christmas break according to the Mail on Sunday...wonder how long it will be before the destination is expected to be a state secret.
 
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MrPVRd said:
By the way, the Bliars are off to a certain Egyptian Red Sea resort for their Christmas break according to the Mail on Sunday
No doubt the Great Deceiver, the Wide-Mouthed Frog and their unholy spawn will expect to be transported by RAF a/c for the same price as a BA economy ticket. Again.
 
#5
Blair Force One!!!! I'm sure he likes the title President Blair better that Prime Minister Blair.Especially standing next to his lover,good 'ol G.W.B!
 
#6
Sir Peter has apparently told Chancellor Gordon Brown the scheme would need a big initial outlay but will pay for itself in the long term.
Based on that principle and the amount of MMA I claim, travel warrant I use and duty journeys I undertake on my own, can uncle Gordon please provide me with my own personal white fleet car (nothing too flashy - a BMW will do). I am sure he won't mind Mrs O and the little O's using it for their business trips either.
 
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Oracle said:
Sir Peter has apparently told Chancellor Gordon Brown the scheme would need a big initial outlay but will pay for itself in the long term.
Based on that principle and the amount of MMA I claim, travel warrant I use and duty journeys I undertake on my own, can uncle Gordon please provide me with my own personal white fleet car (nothing too flashy - a BMW will do). I am sure he won't mind Mrs O and the little O's using it for their business trips either.
Would that be with or without towbar for the optional caravan & jetski package at no extra cost,Sir? :D
 
#12
But they haven't got anything long range why not buy one of those nice airbuses at least some of the tax payers money would come back to this country :) .How about a spectre gunship he is so keen on wars he could join in with one of those ,But, who could
live with the shame of blair force one pulling you out of the shite ?





R.e the shuttle worth collection .How dare they have a chipmunk in their collection its not that old i flew in one of those when i was a cadet .next they will be puttinglee enfield . 303 and bren guns in museums :oops: oh bugger .
 
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BBC on-line is reporting this as well:
Prime minister 'to get air fleet'

Nothing new, though. This idea was going the rounds when John Major was in the chair.

Compare:
"Sir Peter Gershon, the government's efficiency adviser, has been asked to examine the most cost effective way of updating the Royal Flight fleet. "

With the final parapragph of the Beeb piece:
"The Chancellor is said to feel the project's costs should not be a current priority for the Treasury. If the Cabinet Office and Foreign Office do not want to shell out, the venture is set to be put on hold."

Note, no mention of the Palace - so headline "Prime Minister to get air fleet" looks about right, and to hell with the Royal Flight!
 
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Darth_Doctrinus said:
Isn't this what the Queen's Flight chappies are for? :?:
AIUI This is to replace what is in the Queen's Flight at the moment (well according to the Sunday Times).
Wonder if they'll go the whole 9 yards and make it a UK version of Nightwatch/NEACP?
 
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woody said:
But they haven't got anything long range why not buy one of those nice airbuses at least some of the tax payers money would come back to this country :) .How about a spectre gunship he is so keen on wars he could join in with one of those ,But, who could
live with the shame of blair force one pulling you out of the shite ?





R.e the shuttle worth collection .How dare they have a chipmunk in their collection its not that old i flew in one of those when i was a cadet .next they will be puttinglee enfield . 303 and bren guns in museums :oops: oh bugger .
Aye, me too. I may be wrong but I think they probably have it as a trainer for 'tail-draggers'. Not many folk get the chance to practice on tail-wheel aircraft, these days, so it would make sense to have a dual control type, like a Chipmunk, that isn't quite so irreplaceable as, say, a Swordfish.

As for T Bliar, couldn't they just boot him off a cliff, as in that old Monty Python sketch, and shout, 'FLY!' :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
 
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Fear not Woody , I believe the Chippy is there for tail dragging ab-initio work , the same as the Chippy with the BBMF. Now when they put the Andover in a museum.... Oh wait :(
 
#17
So the Queen gets a BAe 146, and the PM gets a jumbo?

There is a bit of a movement these days for corporations to purchase aircraft like 757s instead of the typical Learjet as a business jet. There are a fair few going around second-hand in good nick, and they are cheaper to run per passenger than a bizjet is.

NTM
 
#18
CT

Good skills fella , I believe you have several deserts on that side of the pond, packed nose to tail with suitable aircraft . He could probably have 3 or 4 of those for the price of a factory fresh 7 series.

Of course, you forgot to factor in Mrs. Celestial Eminence would never want to travel in anything less than brand new , with a host of flunkies spreading rose petals in her path, as she takes the Company Jet on yet another self-benefitting tour, at some cost to the PBT.

As regards a suitable aircraft , what are 2/3/4th hand Tupelov 154's going for nowadays? :D

It's called Trans-Volga Airlines, because that's as far as we're prepared to guarantee the airframe integrity
 
#19
I'm in my early 30s and an operational a/c flew in when I was 17 is in a historical collection? WTF? Could be worse I suppose. There are some B-52 aircrew out there that ride to war in the same jet that their grandfathers' did- and it's not due to retire until 2040!

Another option is to adapt the FSTA for official duties (due to be an A330). I quite like this idea (apart from the practical stuff like having to shut down Heathrow for Royal Flights because the runway at Northolt is too small) for no other reason that the theme could be continued when it comes time to replace the No.10 car fleet. I'd love to see The Celestial Navigator and the Crazy Frog bimbling about the streets of London atop a bowser.
 
#20
I think he should get a new plane. Bought from the normal lowest bidder. Then he should be encouraged to use it loads to improve his chances of crashing.............

Blair is the anti-christ......................... :evil:
 

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