US SOF Hostage Rescue--Well done those men

#2
I often wonder why the US revels in the term 'Commando' which, of course, was coined by the Boers and made famous by their former evil Imperial Master and over-taxer of Tea - Great Britain? I'm sure that the self-proclaimed birthplace of 'ingenuity' would be able to come up with a more appropriate homespun term.... How about 'Marauder'? Mr. Merrill seemed to build a solid, though somewhat dubious, brand under that moniker.

By the by, while enjoying the Commando Course myself (basically unchanged since WW2 of course because it would be too much trouble and red tape), I was also amused by a few 'speshul' US chappies on the course who were struggling mightily.

Regardless, enough of this gay banter, bloody well done to the SOF (Septic Operations Forces) and Africa Command. I'm out for a beer tomorrow night to revel in the commemoration of the 40th anniversary of one of 1 PARA's favourite unofficial battle honours: Bloody Sunday, and shall raise a glass to those (paradoxically and quintessentially American) testosterone charged and politically correct fellows.

Now get going on the rest of them, there's a good bunch of lads.
 
#3
I often wonder why the US revels in the term 'Commando' which, of course, was coined by the Boers and made famous by their former evil Imperial Master and over-taxer of Tea - Great Britain? I'm sure that the self-proclaimed birthplace of 'ingenuity' would be able to come up with a more appropriate homespun term.... How about 'Marauder'? Mr. Merrill seemed to build a solid, though somewhat dubious, brand under that moniker.

By the by, while enjoying the Commando Course myself (basically unchanged since WW2 of course because it would be too much trouble and red tape), I was also amused by a few 'speshul' US chappies on the course who were struggling mightily.

Regardless, enough of this gay banter, bloody well done to the SOF (Septic Operations Forces) and Africa Command. I'm out for a beer tomorrow night to revel in the commemoration of the 40th anniversary of one of 1 PARA's favourite unofficial battle honours: Bloody Sunday, and shall raise a glass to those (paradoxically and quintessentially American) testosterone charged and politically correct fellows.

Now get going on the rest of them, there's a good bunch of lads.
Now be fair Canader. The headline was by Reuters--hardly a Septic source. I take your point about the technical term --having been through the RM CTC (many years ago) and while it is impossible to speak for all Americans, in my small experience with our special operations forces, I do not recall any of us using the term "commando."
 
#4
Now be fair Canader. The headline was by Reuters--hardly a Septic source. I take your point about the technical term --having been through the RM CTC (many years ago) and while it is impossible to speak for all Americans, in my small experience with our special operations forces, I do not recall any of us using the term "commando."
I have to agree. I don't hear the term "commando" used much except when someone is describing their "sans underwear" status.
 
#6
I often wonder why the US revels in the term 'Commando' which, of course, was coined by the Boers and made famous by their former evil Imperial Master and over-taxer of Tea - Great Britain? I'm sure that the self-proclaimed birthplace of 'ingenuity' would be able to come up with a more appropriate homespun term...Now get going on the rest of them, there's a good bunch of lads.
Reuters is American? since when?
 
#7
Indeed, very well done to that team.
 
#8
Point of info, the USAF certainly used to have 'Air Commandos' who, as far as I can gather, used to wear rather fetching hats with one side of the brim turned up like Aussies. Given that the USAF is about as gay as the RAF, i.e. very gay indeed, that's probably the extent of their specialness. Unless some sort of latex underwear was involved, that'd be pretty special.
 
#12
And the SEAL chaps have done such a Jolly Good Job, they're securing a 40 year old prison ship to keep them in. At least it seems to have the right sized tanning deck on the back to accommodate those big muscles!

The Pentagon is rushing to send a large floating base for commando teams to the Middle East as tensions rise with Iran, al-Qaeda in Yemen and Somali pirates, among other threats.

In response to requests from U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, the Navy is converting an aging warship it had planned to decommission into a makeshift staging base for the commandos. Unofficially dubbed a “mothership,” the floating base could accommodate smaller high-speed boats and helicopters commonly used by Navy SEALs, procurement documents show.



Pentagon wants commando “mothership” - The Washington Post
 
#13
Now be fair Canader. The headline was by Reuters--hardly a Septic source. I take your point about the technical term --having been through the RM CTC (many years ago) and while it is impossible to speak for all Americans, in my small experience with our special operations forces, I do not recall any of us using the term "commando."
How very dare you disarm me with logic and southern charm, sir! Harrumph...
 
#14
I found this gem in the comments section of reuters

aninonymous wrote:
Congratulations to the Navy Seals.
Congratulations to the two freed hostages.
But, was it necessary to kill the Somali men?
Is there no other option but to create more enemies, ie, their sons, their families and friends.
Can we think of other ways to combat violence than just more violence so that the cycle never ends?
Desperate people do desperate acts.
Can President Obama reach out to the Somali people in some way?
 
#15
I found this gem in the comments section of reuters

aninonymous wrote:
Congratulations to the Navy Seals.
Congratulations to the two freed hostages.
But, was it necessary to kill the Somali men?
Is there no other option but to create more enemies, ie, their sons, their families and friends.
Can we think of other ways to combat violence than just more violence so that the cycle never ends?
Desperate people do desperate acts.
Can President Obama reach out to the Somali people in some way?
Well I certainly concur with the sentiments of whoever the author is. Violence on top of violence simply begets more violence. As Churchill memorably put it: "Jaw Jaw is better than War War".

Having been to Somalia twice, I can honestly say that I would prefer to see the Somali's treated with gifts and flowers, smiles and kind words, rather than bombs and bullets.

Unfortunately, the Somali pirates and bandits are, in the main, nothing more than drug crazed murderers and rapists and simply do not respond to the soft approach. And since their MO is murder, kidnapping, extortion and rape, there is really only one viable response.

Well done the SEALS!
 
#16
I found this gem in the comments section of reuters

aninonymous wrote:
Congratulations to the Navy Seals.
Congratulations to the two freed hostages.
But, was it necessary to kill the Somali men?
Is there no other option but to create more enemies, ie, their sons, their families and friends.
Can we think of other ways to combat violence than just more violence so that the cycle never ends?
Desperate people do desperate acts.
Can President Obama reach out to the Somali people in some way?
Ainonymous (sic) has got a point though.

In my experience of these matter rescuers ALWAYS knock out the bad guys with a good hard punch to the chin or a 'Karate' chop. They are then firmly tied up and cannot move except to wobble their heads a bit. The rescuers usually do a lot of shooting but they don't have to hit anyone as the enemy jeep will blow up and fly into the air and that.

Why couldn't the American SEALs have done the same....
 
#17
Ainonymous (sic) has got a point though.

In my experience of these matter rescuers ALWAYS knock out the bad guys with a good hard punch to the chin or a 'Karate' chop. They are then firmly tied up and cannot move except to wobble their heads a bit. The rescuers usually do a lot of shooting but they don't have to hit anyone as the enemy jeep will blow up and fly into the air and that.

Why couldn't the American SEALs have done the same....
Because it's against their human rights to tie them up.
 
#18
I found this gem in the comments section of reuters

aninonymous wrote:
Congratulations to the Navy Seals.
Congratulations to the two freed hostages.
But, was it necessary to kill the Somali men?
Is there no other option but to create more enemies, ie, their sons, their families and friends.
Can we think of other ways to combat violence than just more violence so that the cycle never ends?
Desperate people do desperate acts.
Can President Obama reach out to the Somali people in some way?
He did. He sent the SEALs. Perhaps 'desperate' people should think on, that next time they take a hostage it will end badly... for them. Wasn't the upshot of the Iranian Embassy siege that at least one siege ended when the BBC had surmised the SAS may be sent in? IIRC correctly that hadn't even been looked at by the authorities at the time (one for Aunty Beeb).

Well, doe the Seals, at least they didn't kill the hostages this time!!!
 
#19
And the SEAL chaps have done such a Jolly Good Job, they're securing a 40 year old prison ship to keep them in. At least it seems to have the right sized tanning deck on the back to accommodate those big muscles!

The Pentagon is rushing to send a large floating base for commando teams to the Middle East as tensions rise with Iran, al-Qaeda in Yemen and Somali pirates, among other threats.

In response to requests from U.S. Central Command, which oversees military operations in the Middle East, the Navy is converting an aging warship it had planned to decommission into a makeshift staging base for the commandos. Unofficially dubbed a “mothership,” the floating base could accommodate smaller high-speed boats and helicopters commonly used by Navy SEALs, procurement documents show.



Pentagon wants commando “mothership” - The Washington Post
The USS Ponce...
 

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