US returns fire on Taliban inside Pakistan

#1
It's about time, especially after the 9 Dead US Soldiers!

US returns fire on Taliban inside Pakistan

By BILL ROGGIOJuly 16, 2008 9:40 AM

The situation on Afghan-Pakistani border has heated up as US forces attacked a Taliban position inside Pakistan. Meanwhile, reports from North Waziristan indicate US forces are massing across the border in Afghanistan's eastern provinces of Paktia, Paktika, and Khost, sparking fears of a US ground incursion into Pakistan's tribal areas.

US soldiers from Task Force Currahee was on the receiving end of "multiple rocket attacks" launched from inside Pakistan on July 15, the International Security Assistance Force reported. After pinpointing the firing location inside Pakistan, responded "with a combination of fires from attack helicopters and artillery into Pakistan."

Link:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/07/us_returns_fire_on_t.php
 
#3
Proximo said:
Trip_Wire said:
It's about time, especially after the 9 Dead US Soldiers!
Yeah right, cos they've never done that before.

Idiot.
Idiot? Sorry I'm not getting your point here!

Did you mean they never had killed before or we never attacked bases in Pakistan before? (Which we have.) Actually I thought the build up on the border by our forces was the most important part of the article.



BTW: The 9 soldiers KIA were from the 173th Airborne Brigade Combat Team:

Names of 173rd Airborne paratroopers KIA

DoD Identifies Army Casualties


The Department of Defense announced today the death of nine soldiers who were supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. They died of wounds suffered when their outpost was attacked by small arms fire and rocket propelled grenades from enemy forces in Wanat, Afghanistan, on July 13. They were assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 503d Infantry Regiment (Airborne), 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team, Vicenza, Italy.

Killed were:

1st Lt. Jonathan P. Brostrom, 24, of Hawaii.

Sgt. Israel Garcia, 24, of Long Beach, Calif.

Cpl. Jonathan R. Ayers, 24, of Snellville, Ga.

Cpl. Jason M. Bogar, 25, of Seattle, Wash.

Cpl. Jason D. Hovater, 24, of Clinton, Tenn.

Cpl. Matthew B. Phillips, 27, of Jasper, Ga.

Cpl. Pruitt A. Rainey, 22, of Haw River, N.C.

Cpl. Gunnar W. Zwilling, 20, of Florissant, Mo.

Pfc. Sergio S. Abad, 21, of Morganfield, Ky.
 
#4
Trip_Wire said:
Idiot? Sorry I'm not getting your point here!
I got it he said you are an idiot, you thick fucking cunt.
 
#5
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
 
#6
Imshi-Yallah said:
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
Months?

US losses in Afghanistan are not as high as Iraq at it's worst, but still more than any other country. Since when has the US gotten "worked up" about losses?
 
#7
Imshi-Yallah said:
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
I don't know, but I thought your post on this was sort of idiotic and thoughtless!

This loss of life is felt at every level of the military, starting with the 173th Airborne Brigade Combat Team and their fellow soldiers, to the parents and relatives of these soldiers as well as most caring Americans.

I see no relevance at all in how long it takes to accumulate causalities on any battle front in the GWOT. As for the enemy, I'm sure they have an idea of how many they KIA or WIA as well as their losses.

I also notice that your armed forces, usually announce their losses in the media as well.
 
#8
ronnie12398 said:
Imshi-Yallah said:
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
Months?

US losses in Afghanistan are not as high as Iraq at it's worst, but still more than any other country. Since when has the US gotten "worked up" about losses?

I'm gonna take a picture for you if I can remember to. It's of a police/local government building in a small town that I pass by every day on the way to work.

The small green lawn out front is covered in white crosses and the flag constantly at half mast.

Since when does the US get worked up over losses? Always, even you Brits you unappreciative pricks.
 
#9
ghost_us said:
ronnie12398 said:
Imshi-Yallah said:
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
Months?

US losses in Afghanistan are not as high as Iraq at it's worst, but still more than any other country. Since when has the US gotten "worked up" about losses?

I'm gonna take a picture for you if I can remember to. It's of a police/local government building in a small town that I pass by every day on the way to work.

The small green lawn out front is covered in white crosses and the flag constantly at half mast.

Since when does the US get worked up over losses? Always, even you Brits you unappreciative pricks.
I am American, you brainless invertebrate. Brush up on your reading comprehension, dick.
 
#10
ronnie12398 said:
ghost_us said:
ronnie12398 said:
Imshi-Yallah said:
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
Months?

US losses in Afghanistan are not as high as Iraq at it's worst, but still more than any other country. Since when has the US gotten "worked up" about losses?

I'm gonna take a picture for you if I can remember to. It's of a police/local government building in a small town that I pass by every day on the way to work.

The small green lawn out front is covered in white crosses and the flag constantly at half mast.

Since when does the US get worked up over losses? Always, even you Brits you unappreciative pricks.
I am American, you brainless invertebrate. Brush up on your reading comprehension, dick.
Yeah, thanks for the wind up. Not biting. Now stop being an ass hat and go troll elsewhere.
 
#11
Aren't the lads involved in this from the 503rd??

The same lads' whose Easy Company of the Regiment was featured in Band of Brothers?

I'm sure it is.

Stop giving the chap a shoeing and show a bit of decorum lads.

Please??
 
#12
ghost_us said:
ronnie12398 said:
ghost_us said:
ronnie12398 said:
Imshi-Yallah said:
I heard they were planning on renaming this section "Trip-Wire's stars and stripes dungeon"

Isn't getting all worked up about nine blokes getting killed sort of playing into the hands of the enemy?

While the tragedy personally effects many people, how long does it take for the US army to reach 9 fatalities in Afghan? Months maybe?
Months?

US losses in Afghanistan are not as high as Iraq at it's worst, but still more than any other country. Since when has the US gotten "worked up" about losses?

I'm gonna take a picture for you if I can remember to. It's of a police/local government building in a small town that I pass by every day on the way to work.

The small green lawn out front is covered in white crosses and the flag constantly at half mast.

Since when does the US get worked up over losses? Always, even you Brits you unappreciative pricks.
I am American, you brainless invertebrate. Brush up on your reading comprehension, dick.
Yeah, thanks for the wind up. Not biting. Now stop being an ass hat and go troll elsewhere.
Read the post that I was responding to (Imshi-Yallah) and try to figure out what I wrote. :roll:
 
#13
ghost_us said:
Since when does the US get worked up over losses? Always, even you Brits you unappreciative pricks.
You completely misunderstood what Ronnie was saying above ghost_us - he was actually objecting to the words "worked up", not saying people in the US don't care - now who's being a prick - I think it may be you?

As for the comment above, it was entirely uncalled for on a BRITISH military forum where many people reading this will have served in Iraq or Afghanistan and a fair few will have lost personal friends in one or the other - or both.

Now how about an apology for being an insensitive jackass - and perhaps you'd like to go and troll elsewhere.
 
#15
Thanks Ronnie :D

I noticed that in the press release. Makes no difference though mate, they're still Airborne.

I'm not airborne, but I've family and friends who are/were.

I have a lot of respect for both our airborne bretheren and sympathise with your most recent losses mate.

Sparky
 
#16
Sparky2339 said:
Thanks Ronnie :D

I noticed that in the press release. Makes no difference though mate, they're still Airborne.

I'm not airborne, but I've family and friends who are/were.

I have a lot of respect for both our airborne bretheren and sympathise with your most recent losses mate.

Sparky
Sorry, I was completely wrong. :oops:

It was the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment that Easy Company was from. It still is part of the 101st Airborne.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/506th_Parachute_Infantry_Regiment
 
#17
Ronnie no probs, I should've checked too instead of relying from memory but the term "Currahee" rang an instant bell.

Check PM's in five mins
 
#18
Trip here is something for you to read.


I'm not going to say much but maybe your celebration on firing into pakistan was a bit uncouth. everyone hurts when troops die... lets not try and kill those on your side shall we?

All my bold.

linky for full versiona



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Pakistan's uneasy alliance with US

The US and Pakistan remain allies in the international fight against terrorism but relations have been worsening. The US is accusing Pakistan of failing to rein in Taleban and al-Qaeda militants that take refuge in its border region and, as Barbara Plett reports, there is growing anger among Pakistanis towards the US.


When soldiers here die fighting the pro-Taleban tribesmen in their border region, there is a debate about whether or not they are martyrs

About a thousand soldiers have died since Pakistan joined America's so-called "war on terror".

So the funerals of 11 more, killed last month along the Afghan-Pakistan border, should not have been anything unusual.

But those who attended the services described a feeling that had been absent in the past.

Many of the family members were clearly proud. They considered their sons martyrs who had died for the homeland.

Pakistani soldiers who were supposed to be fighting hand-in-hand with US forces against the Taleban had, in fact, been killed by US missiles.

The Americans said they had been aiming at militants. Pakistan called it an unprovoked act of aggression.

When soldiers here die fighting the pro-Taleban tribesmen in their border region, there is a debate about whether or not they are martyrs. Some religious scholars say that honour belongs to the Taleban, not to troops fighting their own people.

This time, according to those at the funerals, there was no such ambivalence.

These soldiers were killed by Americans... non-Muslims, said the Imams, bent on harming Islamic countries. "May God destroy the alien forces," they prayed.
 
#19
Joint al Qaeda and Taliban force behind Nuristan base attack


By BILL ROGGIOJuly 14, 2008 9:03 PM

Yesterday's deadly complex attack on a joint US and Afghan outpost in Nuristan province was carried out by a large, mixed force of Taliban, al Qaeda, and allied extremist groups operating eastern Afghanistan.
Sunday's assault occurred just three days after 45 US soldiers, likely from the 173rd Airborne Brigade, and 25 Afghan troops established a new combat outpost in the town of Wanat, which straddles the provincial border between Nuristan and Kunar. The troops had little time to learn the lay of the land, establish local contacts, and build an intelligence network. The fortifications were not fully completed, according to initial reports.

A complex attack

The assault was carried out in the early morning of July 13 after the extremist forces, numbering between 200 and 500 fighters, took over a neighboring village. "What they [the Taliban] did was they moved into an adjacent village - which was close to the combat outpost - they basically expelled the villagers and used their houses to attack us," an anonymous senior Afghan defense ministry official told Al Jazeera. Tribesmen in the town stayed behind "and helped the insurgents during the fight," General Mohammad Qasim Jangalbagh, the provincial police chief, told The Associated Press.

Link:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2008/07/joint_al_qaeda_and_t.php
 
#20
Soldiers recount deadly attack on Afghanistan outpost

By Steve Mraz, Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Saturday, July 19, 2008

Soldiers recount deadly attack on Afghanistan outpost

Ben Bloker / Stripes

Spc. Tyler Stafford, 23, a soldier from Company C, 2nd Battalion, 503rd Infantry Regiment (Airborne), recounts the hours-long fight that killed nine of his comrades as he recuperates at Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in Germany.

Ben Bloker / Stripes

Spc. Tyler Stafford and Sgt. Jacob Walker talk about the attack.

Everything was on fire. The trucks. The bazaar. The grass.
It looked surreal. It looked like a movie.

Link:

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=56237
 

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